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I don’t understand this either. A few protests that aren’t even in the news after a single day!?
You want to bet, it won’t be any different if trump says there was too much fraud and cancels the midterm results? A week of protests and outrage, but by then he will already do something else outraging to talk about. Americans are neutered.
There’s always the excuse that they can’t take one single day off from work because they’d lose healthcare coverage yada yada. I used to think it was bullshit, that they’re just lazy.
But… remember during covid, when a ton of people became unemployed? Suddenly they were protesting all over the place. Made me reconsider. I think the lack of social security really has them by the balls.
I read many -if not most- live paycheck to paycheck. If so, the problem might go way deeper than that.
Yes, I agree. The system neutered them, I’m sure otherwise they are normal people. But the education they have. The price they gave to pay for it, theb guarded two party system where officias are bought by the rich, the bought media, the lack of healthcare and it’s price, …
This has produced the perfect cattle. The American aristocracy have made the perfect system, where everyone thinks they are free and are too uneducated, busy and sick to think about how much they are exploited.
Also a fully militarized police force in all 50 states some which rival the power of nations
The NYPD has over 30,000 cops, some 10k+ support staff and similar firepower to the active militaries of some European countries, and that’s just 1 city. Also the us military sells surplus and “necessary” equipment directly to police departments
There are also 50 separate states and each of those states has a rural/urban divide covering over nearly 3000 miles across of diverse geography without including Alaska or any of the islands.
This is by design.
It really does fuck us.
Yup, and considering everything that’s coming to light right now, it’s hard to say that it isn’t by design.
A few protests that aren’t even in the news
Depending on how much you rely on main stream (especially legacy) news, you’re highly unlikely to see one protester on the news for every ten thousand on the street.
Turns out that the billionaires and hectomillionaires that own all of the biggest media outlets don’t like to draw attention to people criticizing their golf buddies when they don’t have to.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t do more, but there are plenty of ongoing protests. Just because you don’t see them in the news everyday didn’t mean they aren’t happening. Minneapolis, Portland, LA, DC and more all have protests that have been more or less ongoing since the shit hit the fan in their respective areas. The difference between this country and Franve can’t be understated im terms of geographic size and population density. It is MUCH harder to sustain protests when we’re all so spread out compared to am entire country the size of Texas.
It’s not about that. Your protests are meaningless. They don’t do anything. They are just pointless parades. The officials don’t need to care about them.
The majority of Americans are over worked, stressed out and do not have the energy to start a general strike or create another 1789. However, an individual AmeriKan will resort to the quick and easy violence with a firearm to solve a problem. Weird. I respect the French and their ability to organize a general strike better than anyone in Europe and the planet.
It’s also borderline impossible to organize on the scale needed without getting infiltrated by the feds here. The US is fucking enormous, which means we need large scale organization to really do much, but opsec only gets more complicated and more difficult the larger you organize, especially when your resources are limited.
News organizations will spin shit as well and then propaganda networks will flip things.
It definetely makes it hard, but just a few state-level ones would still improve everything no?
I mean, that’s already happening. To me it doesn’t really look like it’s working, but maybe I’m wrong.
In France, the worst they will likely be met with is water cannons, tear gas, and potentially rubber bullets/beanbag rounds.
In America, it’s more likely to be automatic assault rifles.
French cops also shoot people who just drive away.
On 27 June 2023, Nahel Merzouk (25 February 2006 – 27 June 2023),[1] a 17-year-old French youth of Moroccan and Algerian descent,[2] was shot at point-blank range and killed by police officer Florian M., when he did not comply with an order to stop and instead attempted to drive away in Nanterre, a suburb of Paris, France. Initial reporting on the incident (informed by police statements) was later contradicted by a video posted online, which led to widespread protests and riots. Symbols of the state such as town halls, schools, police stations, and other buildings were attacked.[3] The Interior Ministry reported that more than 5,000 vehicles had been set on fire, along with 10,000 garbage cans; nearly 1,000 buildings had been burnt, damaged or looted; 250 police stations and gendarmeries had been attacked; and more than 700 police officers had been injured.[4][5]
The killing—condemned by President Emmanuel Macron as “inexplicable” and “inexcusable”[6]—became part of a broader public debate regarding aggressive French law enforcement,[7] racial profiling,[8] immigration,[9] and the stakes of naming the subsequent suburban violence “rioting” rather than “revolts”.[10] On 28 June, the president of the National Assembly, Yaël Braun-Pivet, asked deputies “to respect a minute of silence in Nahel’s memory”.[11][12]
Police kill someone in France:
Massive violent protests, burning police stations and police cars
Incident condemned by governmentPolice kill someone in the USA:
Nonviolent protests
Government defends the killer
You say that like you can’t get your own automatic assault rifles in America.
You can’t. I feel like you don’t know what an automatic rifle or an assault rifle is.
You can, they just cost like $10k-$50k (if you want one legally).
Otherwise, crime gonna crime.
Lol yeah that’s true. I’m just assuming they didn’t mean that only eccentric rich people can get automatic assault rifles, whatever that contradiction in terms means.
I definitely am not talking only about eccentric rich people, you are correct.
Modifying them is trivially easy, so any can be full auto, but burst fire is superior anyway. Full auto is only for psychological coolness.
Oh for sure, I call it “a great way to turn a lot of money into a lot of noise” lol. It’s pretty useless outside of specific military applications.
Not as easily as modifying a semi automatic.
automatic assault rifles
This is redundant, by definition all assault rifles have auto or burst fire modes. Anyone (including lawmakers) in the US who claims otherwise is incorrect.
I’m not American. I’m only aware of them in passing. It’s not the sort of thing we learn about in school, over here.
Yeah that’s not true. Semiautomatic assault rifles are very common in the US, more available by far than full auto.
Assault rifles have select fire, by definition.
What about burst fire?
… AND THE HOOOME OF THE BRAAAAAVE
Ba dum tis!
French cops: using less lethals according to the manual.
'Merica cops: point blank, headshots (unless you’re preggers), gas the kids
If you think french cops follow the manual I have a bridge to sell you
checks the Internet search engine
American police are significantly more lethal, with fatal shooting rates in 2019 being 22 times higher (3.1 per million) than in France (0.14 per million).
… … I dunno, that feels like a pretty significant difference
That still doesn’t mean french cops are not also dangerous during protests. I’m not trying to say they’re more dangerous than your brown shirts, I’m saying that protesting also isn’t risk free in France, and claiming that french cops follow the rules is simply incorrect.
When you look at the damage French protests cause vs the violence they incite in cops, it’s relatively safe compared to the violence us cops perpetrate in retribution to completely peaceful protests in the us, or even just violence top bystanders in the US. Add in that French protests actually accomplish something and the risk benefit calculations are so totally different.
If you’ve only experienced french protests through international medias, you probably have a very skewed view of both the actual damage they create and their effectiveness.
They’re all full of stories and excuses because none of them can figure out how to do anything beyond going out for a walk every couple months.
I like to think this is the real reason the French have been vilified as cowards and weak in the American Zeitgeist.
So we don’t look at our brothers in arms and join with them.
American Liberalism was the basis of the left, and we kicked it right out of the USA after the civil war, The French however took it and ran.
We need to dump some cow shit in front of the White House and set some tires in fire.
I’ve been thinking this too for a little while now. It fits too perfectly. Throughout my adolescence, I hated the French. Proudly, openly, I thought it was funny and edgy for some reason, because I’ve always been disgusted by racism and I am a tiny part French. Edgy teenage bullshit. As I aged out of teen years though, there came a point where something caused me to investigate my own bias with honesty. And when I did, I found it to be totally empty and devoid of substance. I had absolutely no real reason to dislike the French, and these days I feel nothing but love for them.
I’m convinced the only reason I ever hated them was because of propaganda. Never had a bad personal experience. And Parisian ‘rudeness’ is revealed to be, in my opinion, simple straightforward bluntness. The propaganda is incredibly effective. Americans would benefit greatly if we could all take just a few notes from them; they have a cultural understanding that the government works for the people, not against. And if it’s not doing it’s job, take whatever action needed to restore balance. Seeing footage of their protests starting a few years back really opened my eyes to what could be done.
UK here, no-one pretends to hate the French more than the UK. We have literally hundreds of years worth of war and shared inbred rulers between us.
Personally, I have nothing but mad respect for how fast the French are to whip out a quick reminder of how it starts, with the strong implication that everyone remembers how it ends if left ignored.
Their dock workers aren’t even inconveniencing anyone.
How’s it even a country?
At this point, I can only imagine it’s out of spite. The regime wants violence, and we are certainly capable of it. But denying them the response they are begging for seems to really blue ball them.
We’re going to die probably. But on our terms, not theirs.
yeah, sure
Thats one way to cope with the situation I guess.
Entrée Madame la Guillotine
Blatantly copied it…
Goddamn IKEA. Have they seen oligarch necks?! This thing has maybe 5-10 good chops in it.
But then again, could make for a lovely spectacle - hear me out.
10 of these delivered by pallet, efficiently flat-packed, to the stage. The oligarchs, milling about in their corral, cast their eyes up at the sudden disturbance, lick their lips at the raw, delicious shareholder value on naked display.
The Executive Executors, unhooded, unhurried, and unafraid - begin to unbox, and then to build. The livestream is immaculate.
10 of these
Do you not know ikea? They are a company that does mass production. They do not put out a product so they can sell 10. They will chop whole forests and mine entire mountains so they can provide the global population with their products. They understand supply and demand. They will make loads more than just 10
Blatantly copied it
Now me too
Dictators use instigators to escalate the situation and remove personal freedoms. People are being smart and not falling for instigators, all history books shows how they use infiltrataded people to cause the authoritarian regime to attack protester. So I think people are being smart and they afraid from midterms and trying everything to see if they can have a provocateur before the midterms.
Wasnt the the last French protest and riots about the raising of retirement age? And didnt that happen anyway?
Im really asking, I think Im correct.
Yes. But at least they went and protested en masse.
They didn’t go far enough
I mean, they use all of those things in the US too, but that stuff is the floor for anti protest/riot cops, not the ceiling.
They should’ve written the 2nd amendment in French lol
Yeah because France is fine
Been there a few times, and It’s not perfect at all.
Still I’d pay to visit france while you can’t pay me to go to the usa.
let’s see: macron didn’t send terrorists to kill french people on open street ✅ damn, french people seem to be so good at reminding their leaders how they check power that their leaders don’t try that shit… maybe american people need to chop some heads with the ol headchopper
Errr… Macaron is making sure that the nazis win and no one gives a shit
yes, we have the same problem in germany. yet we are talking about a completely different magnitude. trumps people literally are the fascists.
Yes, it’s one step away from it. And that’s when reaction is needed, not after the nazis start executing people, but yet no one cares
indeed
The police kill people in France too. For example, El Hacen Diarra died in a police station a few days ago.
disclaimer: this comment is wrong because i misread a table. it’s 33,5 kills per 10mio in the usa and 5 kills per 10mio in france
true, but not a good comparison, because i wasn’t talking about the police but ICE. if i was talking about the police however we we still talking about 1000 out of every million inhabitants in the usa killed by the police; in france, 37. yes: france has a problem with police brutality - but what does that say about the usa?
These numbers are easily found and already bad enough, why make absurd ones up instead?OP misreadThere were 1200 police-involved deaths in the US last year, not 350,000. A huge number, 6x more than France would have had were the populations equivalent, but not anything like the population of an entire large city being gunned down yearly.
you are right, because i misread it and took the wrong column in a table. this was yearly not per million - it’s 33,5 per 10mio. in the usa against 5 per 10mio. in france.
thanks for pointing it out. i edited the comment
Ah, that would explain it!
We don’t chop heads, we poke holes.
france used to
France burned stuff because the president wanted to increase the age for retirement. Multiple times.
Who’s the exceptionalist country now?
They protested endlessly, and got… Nothing. Peanuts.
Macron has the government that used the most by very, very far the 49.3 article which is basically a pass to ignore the democratic process. He said quite clearly that democracy has no power against him and it is proven true.
The fascism in France is just less… frontal, than in the US, but it is there and those little protests, as long as they last, won’t change anything.
But that doesn’t mean they actually raised taxes or did anything to solve the budget shortfall that the retirement change was for. That’s just kicking the can down the road.
Yep they didn’t solve that problem, but they’re also still not full nazis, so they’re ahead of these exceptionalist people, who believe they’re exceptional for good reasons while the rest of the world knows they’re exceptional for bad reasons.
Because nothing’s broken. This is how it’s supposed to work.
