On 27 June 2023, Nahel Merzouk (25 February 2006 – 27 June 2023),[1] a 17-year-old French youth of Moroccan and Algerian descent,[2] was shot at point-blank range and killed by police officer Florian M., when he did not comply with an order to stop and instead attempted to drive away in Nanterre, a suburb of Paris, France. Initial reporting on the incident (informed by police statements) was later contradicted by a video posted online, which led to widespread protests and riots. Symbols of the state such as town halls, schools, police stations, and other buildings were attacked.[3] The Interior Ministry reported that more than 5,000 vehicles had been set on fire, along with 10,000 garbage cans; nearly 1,000 buildings had been burnt, damaged or looted; 250 police stations and gendarmeries had been attacked; and more than 700 police officers had been injured.[4][5]
The killing—condemned by President Emmanuel Macron as “inexplicable” and “inexcusable”[6]—became part of a broader public debate regarding aggressive French law enforcement,[7] racial profiling,[8] immigration,[9] and the stakes of naming the subsequent suburban violence “rioting” rather than “revolts”.[10] On 28 June, the president of the National Assembly, Yaël Braun-Pivet, asked deputies “to respect a minute of silence in Nahel’s memory”.[11][12]
Police kill someone in France:
Massive violent protests, burning police stations and police cars
Incident condemned by government
Police kill someone in the USA:
Nonviolent protests
Government defends the killer
Lol yeah that’s true. I’m just assuming they didn’t mean that only eccentric rich people can get automatic assault rifles, whatever that contradiction in terms means.
This is redundant, by definition all assault rifles have auto or burst fire modes. Anyone (including lawmakers) in the US who claims otherwise is incorrect.
American police are significantly more lethal, with fatal shooting rates in 2019 being 22 times higher (3.1 per million) than in France (0.14 per million).
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I dunno, that feels like a pretty significant difference
That still doesn’t mean french cops are not also dangerous during protests. I’m not trying to say they’re more dangerous than your brown shirts, I’m saying that protesting also isn’t risk free in France, and claiming that french cops follow the rules is simply incorrect.
When you look at the damage French protests cause vs the violence they incite in cops, it’s relatively safe compared to the violence us cops perpetrate in retribution to completely peaceful protests in the us, or even just violence top bystanders in the US. Add in that French protests actually accomplish something and the risk benefit calculations are so totally different.
If you’ve only experienced french protests through international medias, you probably have a very skewed view of both the actual damage they create and their effectiveness.
In France, the worst they will likely be met with is water cannons, tear gas, and potentially rubber bullets/beanbag rounds.
In America, it’s more likely to be automatic assault rifles.
French cops also shoot people who just drive away.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Nahel_Merzouk
Police kill someone in France:
Massive violent protests, burning police stations and police cars
Incident condemned by government
Police kill someone in the USA:
Nonviolent protests
Government defends the killer
You say that like you can’t get your own automatic assault rifles in America.
You can’t. I feel like you don’t know what an automatic rifle or an assault rifle is.
You can, they just cost like $10k-$50k (if you want one legally).
Otherwise, crime gonna crime.
Lol yeah that’s true. I’m just assuming they didn’t mean that only eccentric rich people can get automatic assault rifles, whatever that contradiction in terms means.
I definitely am not talking only about eccentric rich people, you are correct.
Modifying them is trivially easy, so any can be full auto, but burst fire is superior anyway. Full auto is only for psychological coolness.
Oh for sure, I call it “a great way to turn a lot of money into a lot of noise” lol. It’s pretty useless outside of specific military applications.
Not as easily as modifying a semi automatic.
This is redundant, by definition all assault rifles have auto or burst fire modes. Anyone (including lawmakers) in the US who claims otherwise is incorrect.
I’m not American. I’m only aware of them in passing. It’s not the sort of thing we learn about in school, over here.
Yeah that’s not true. Semiautomatic assault rifles are very common in the US, more available by far than full auto.
Assault rifles have select fire, by definition.
What about burst fire?
French cops: using less lethals according to the manual.
'Merica cops: point blank, headshots (unless you’re preggers), gas the kids
If you think french cops follow the manual I have a bridge to sell you
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… … I dunno, that feels like a pretty significant difference
That still doesn’t mean french cops are not also dangerous during protests. I’m not trying to say they’re more dangerous than your brown shirts, I’m saying that protesting also isn’t risk free in France, and claiming that french cops follow the rules is simply incorrect.
When you look at the damage French protests cause vs the violence they incite in cops, it’s relatively safe compared to the violence us cops perpetrate in retribution to completely peaceful protests in the us, or even just violence top bystanders in the US. Add in that French protests actually accomplish something and the risk benefit calculations are so totally different.
If you’ve only experienced french protests through international medias, you probably have a very skewed view of both the actual damage they create and their effectiveness.
They’re all full of stories and excuses because none of them can figure out how to do anything beyond going out for a walk every couple months.
… AND THE HOOOME OF THE BRAAAAAVE
Ba dum tis!