Pretty sure its the integrated drivers that cause the delay with LEDs lighting up. Better than the case 5-10 years ago though, where we still needed external drivers to make them work - now you just run your line voltage straight to the sockets. Much easier on the electricians.
That is a crappy switch placement, though. A little more planning would’ve fixed that. Nothing stopping you from getting a label maker though.
And it’s often on purpose because the driver is smoothing out the mains input and/or supports dimmers. A tiny delay is worth it to have an LED that doesn’t flicker
You really don’t want a bargain bin LED where the driver is just a half bridge rectifier and a resistor in series with the LED
And it’s better than the old crappy energy-saving bulbs that emitted pure darkness for a minute when you turned them on.
Yeah i dont miss CFLs
Label makers exist, John.
Edit: just wanna thank Hawke for once again downvoting me. Love me a good stalker.
Lol piss off a lemming somewhere?
Probably. I’m kinda a bitch.
Lol glancing at your profile I imagine your actions may have been warranted. Lots of twats on .ml.
I’ve met some decent ones from there that can have a conversation. But they are few and far between.
I dunno. Might have taken it too far a few times.
I blocked all of .ml to keep myself from seeing and replying to them. Best thing I’ve ever done on Lemmy.
They were a whole new subculture for me when I got on here. Wasn’t sure how to take them at first. Now it’s mostly an eyeroll and keep moving.
You need the red card key.
I will never be not mad at the latency digital electronics add. It’s so small and imperceptible, but it feels like an eon.
I bet the kids never even notice.I get disproportionately angry when “pause” doesn’t pause for like 3 seconds.
EDIT: Was talking about bluetooth headphones, but the stuff y’all listed is infuriating too.
I click pause, nothing happens, I click pause again, the video stops and starts.
Fuckers.
I swear just reading this spiked my blood pressure
I hate the credit card terminals at TJ Maxx/Marshalls specifically because of this. They have noise and visual feedback when you tap but it’s always a few seconds late. As a programmer, that shit makes me want to track down whoever wrote it and slap them.
Is is disproportionately low? Because there is no upper limit to the rage from pause not being instant.
The pause plus all the streaming services adding shit over the image really pisses me off when I stopped it to read the letter the character is holding and I can’t tell what it is because stopping at the right time took four attempts and then it has some shaded gradient over the screen.
Yeah, when one click is interpreted as “show the UI”, but the step back when you miss some frames you want to look closer at is longer than the time it takes to hide the UI from no activity. And then you do pause it at the right time finally and the fucking video player goes, “oh you paused it, time for me to display other shit in front of the background jokes you’re trying to read or the frames of nice butt you’re trying to appreciate”.
Shit like that is why I’ve been quitting certain streaming apps.
If you can notice it, it’s not imperceptible.
If only we had a word for that, right? Unimperceptible, maybe?
It’s very perceptible to people who know how it should be. I remember when CFL’s were being pushed, and they had to “warm up”. Then we got LED bulbs that have 500-1500ms latency from cold to lit. We deserve better.
I used to really like John Carmack until I found out he hangs out with Nazis.

Oh bummer :(
John responded to it, doesn’t like it, but managing that divide isn’t a priority for him.
"It is unfortunate that Rob [Kroese] has made BasedCon so intentionally provocative," writes Carmack. "I told him as much after the event last year, I felt a little uncomfortable. There is a demographic that welcomes the in-your-face posturing, but it drives away sympathetic people that would otherwise be happy to talk about craft, stories, and technology. "Even when someone gives you a clear signal, it is a mistake to extrapolate it to an entire constellation of beliefs and behaviors, and then to assume they are contagious by association. That shortchanges a lot of people. "I’m not a culture warrior, and I don’t want to strike blows against anyone. I don’t follow activists on either side, including Rob, because I tend to think that all the negativity and resentment is detrimental to both the author and target."
I hate him because he refuses to release on Linux.
Ugh. Forgot that. Dammit, now I’m disappointed all over again.
I think this guy is just very oblivious and stuck in his own head. You should watch that Wired video on YouTube where he explains VR to kids of different ages until college students. Dude just rambled on even explaining things on a level that went over those kids heads he didn’t even gauge if those kids understood any of it. Like some other people on the spectrum he probably can’t read the room and misses cues in people’s faces. It’s probably why he missed the subtext and meaning of what BasedCon is actually about and why it exists.
At least they’re in one place. My brother’s latest apartment is wired like a Zelda puzzle, and the switches are scattered around the living area.
That really is too many switches in the same place.
Unless it is a very big square-ish room with 6 lights at the ceiling.
There isn’t likely to be a good reason for each light to be individually controlled instead of having one switch for all six.
Don’t get me wrong, lights could be put in multiple groups (ambient lighting, task lighting, etc.) but six of them is more than a stretch.
I don’t think it’s all that uncommon to see in houses with recessed light fixtures, 1970s-90s type stuff. Couple 3-ways for hallway lights (also controlled elsewhere in the hallways), 1 (or 2) for ceiling fan (2 if it has lights and wired as such), rest for banks of recessed lights so someone could use lower wattage incandescents in some. I think this nonsense mostly died out with shag carpeting tho
Could be three types of lighting divided into two spacial zones. Might be commercial (or industrial) where it’s nice to have all the switches by the door to turn everything off at once (but still have the option of only lighting one half if that’s where all the work is being done that day).
Maybe they sometimes want only some of them on and haven’t heard of dimmer switches?
The hilarity of your home wiring being sassed by the (admittedly amazing) guy whose video games boil down to “kill stuff, hit switches” with escalating difficulty and frustration.
On the one hand, I’d love our paths to cross. On the other, I’d relish the thought that he’d sweat just a little when trying to figure out anything inside my home.
“Oh, I’m sorry. The switch you want is behind a hidden door in the other room. Just tap on every wall until one of them opens.”

Those outlets are mildly scary.
Everything about electricity in India is scary.
Is that a landlord special paint job, followed by a two different approaches that were ineffective but still obvious (and who knows how many other non-obvious) attempts to fix the landlord special paint job, followed by just giving up?
Or maybe the scratches are labels and not attempts to scratch all the paint off? L for “light” and the rest open secret doors in some sort of video game level complex?
This was just a small restaurant in Hyderabad. I also think the L is for lights, but I didn’t play around with the switches to find out.
That’s just a typical videogame puzzle: figure the correct combination to open the door, or turn on the correct lights
I wanted to make a joke about doom just being a shooter, using his “video game stories are like porn” quote, but honestly the originals are pretty damn puzzley
Never noticed an issue with LEDs. Those CFLs though.
Blink.
Blink.
Blink blink.
Bzzzzzzz…
I heard and felt this comment at the same time. Bravo! 👏
[Dim]
[Little less dim]
[Still dim]
[Can see a bit through the dimness]
[Functional but still dim]
“Fuck it I’ll ignore it”
[5 minutes later] “Hey I can see.”
Don’t forget about the crappy color temperature/color rendering index until they finished warming up.
There’s one room in my place where there are no fixed switches (well there’s one, but it doesn’t seem to do anything). So, all the lights are on the lamps themselves. This is obviously the best user interface in terms of knowing what a switch does. It turns on the light that’s directly next to the switch. But, it’s the worst system for lighting up a dark room, because you have to make your way through the darkness to find the lamp, find its switch, and turn it on.
Lights in the wall are a compromise in terms of switch-to-light user interface obviousness in favour of being able to see the UI or to find it in the dark.
As for knowing what turns on what, if you live somewhere you learn within a week or so what light does what. Your first week after a move is normally dedicated to more important things like finding your clean underwear. So, by the time you could start labelling switches to know what they do, you often don’t need to do that anymore. The one place where labels would really help is hotels, Air BnB places, and maybe guest rooms.
Looking for color coded keys is a more intuitive interface?
Everyone used to bitch about how Windows 95 was such an ugly interface, but it was actually built to be usable by people with vision problems, including color-blindness. Relying on color for your interface is certainly intuitive but isn’t useful for everyone.
Agreed. Colorblind. Certain DVD menus were awful for me back in the day.
Tbh marking the distinctly in literally any way would be an improvement, if not for associating a light with that marking then at least for getting a clear answer when you ask someone who knows. “Hey which switch turns on the hall lights?” “Oh the one with the cock n balls drawn on it”
This is why I label breakers/switches the moment I move in — “Kitchen left / Hall / Fan” saves future-me so much chaos 😅 Also, delayed LEDs are the worst kind of suspense.
Every time I’ve tried this, it’s ended in a labeling disaster. Maybe it’s my luck, but electricians seem to be more interested in wiring walls than rooms. As a result, the breakers seldom come anywhere close to any logical room layout. And then there’s legacy breaker-box GCFI stuff, and homeowner renovation hacks…
I always think I’m going to do this, and I never once have. Next time for sure…
I mean, it’s your house and not a product you’re selling. After a couple weeks you likely know which switch does what. Whenever a host comes you can show them the switches.













