• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    My great grandma had a similar story, the bus stop was in front of my grandparent’s bedroom, they hated that people would gather in their bedroom window. she asked for the stop to be moved a few meters down the road, so it is between the houses and not in front of it. the municipality denied her.

    Until that point the bus stop was nothing but a sign, she heard that they were going to remove it and install a proper bus stop with a bench and shade.

    She asked the city build it a few meters down, still nothing.

    the night before they began construction, my great grandma just moved the sign to where she wanted it. they built the bus stop where the sign was, and today, that bus stop is still where she wanted it to. Possibly until perpetuity

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      Possibility: They know it’s in the wrong spot. They don’t know why. So they figure someone screwed up, they don’t know who, but they don’t want it to be them or their department. So nobody says anything, and the stop remains unchanged.

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    I wonder what problem the original sign addressed. Because forbidding turning right for 2 ½ hours every morning sounds extremely specific, and sounds like one neighbor in particular had some beef with another or something, and got the city to put up the sign.

    And maybe that neighbor left, or whichever problem was being addressed didn’t exist anymore.

    I know that’s a thing because a long time ago, we had a “15mph - blind children at play” sign in our street, until someone pointed out that the blind child in question was now an adult and had moved out years ago, and the sign was just annoying everybody for nothing 🙂

    In other words, the guy might have replaced a useless sign with another, equally useless one on his own dime. Maybe he could simply have called the city to wonder what the sign was for, and possibly have it reviewed and removed altogether.

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      Given the original sign covered 7-9.30am seems like it’s to prevent people cutting across traffic during peak commuting time either to prevent accidents or improve the flow of traffic.

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        Yeah true. But I reckon it was worth asking.

        Also, sometimes, all it takes is asking a carve-out to make your life easier.

        For instance, he could have asked the city to add an “except residents” sign under the existing one. At least where I live, you’d be surprised how accommodating the administration can be if you simply ask nicely with a good argument.

        Hell, he could have added the sign himself for cheaper and I bet none of the other residents would have complained about it 🙂

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          Realllly depends on the city. Some places won’t even reply to you for months, and when they do it’ll be a bullshit answer because you’re not of the developers bribing them with millions of dollars…

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        There is a sign like this at the end of my street. It’s morning and evening rush times. The turn in question is an offset intersection through a busy road. If you are to take a left off my street you can easily be hit by someone taking a right from the street across into the middle of the road to then take a left from the perpendicular road onto my street. The city put some surveyors out there for a bit and with the accident data and all that determined my street can’t make our left at certain times but the street across can snake their way across town just fine. The 2 streets on either side of mine are just fine to left turn from, they don’t have the offset intersection. Nobody gets pulled over for the turn either but I’m sure if you caused an accident you would get an extra citation.

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        There is a guy down the road that used to have someone riding down his street with a loud muffler and blaring music trying to hyped up for work every morning around 8:30 So instead of putting a sign up that said no turn between 8-9, he figured if he put up a sign that said 7-9:30 it would seem specific and no one would question it. They would all think it was curated by engineers and traffic studies. Nah, dude just wanted to sleep in because he worked nights.

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          Because the busy period in the morning and evening are more than 1 hour long about everywhere with people having differing work schedules that all begin and end within similar but not exact time frame.

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      There’s a sign by my house, on a road I need to turn right on at about 420 every day, that says no right-on-red turns between 730am to 430pm on school days.

      It’s frustrating, because it doesn’t seem like it’s actually protecting children for 9 hours a day

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      I had one of those by my house, not in the residential area.

      Morning turners would back up the lane into another light, so the sign was just to cover up for bad traffic design

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    Are people really praising this? I guess fuck the engineers who did a traffic study, and fuck the school children walking in that area from 7-7:30 I guess.

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        I’m willing to hear you out. Your evidence for the sign being “wrong” is that it wasn’t discovered? Do you think that city workers would check to make sure the sign still said 07:00 and not 07:30? Why in the world would they check things like this?

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          Imagine you take out a good made stop sign. You’d probably have a lot of crashes in a short period of time and soon it would be discovered that something is wrong.

          Apparently it hasn’t happened, so it doesn’t seem to be causing a lot of trouble.

          The sign is there for a reason. If after modification that reason has not manifest itself, most likely the modification is within the margin of what the people who is regulating traffic want to happen.

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            Not everything needs to be on the same scale of safety. I’m not saying that this particular rule was 100% perfect, just that it’s not up to individuals to undermine them arbitrarily, and just because no one noticed in ten years does not mean that it was ok to do it.

            I’m glad it’s not causing a lot of trouble anyway…

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        Ok cool so I guess OP is a civil engineer with a Professional Engineer license then, and got a resolution from the city/town’s governing board giving them permission to change it. And they publicly bid the project to certified contractors.

        Oh wait no, none of that happened

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        You’re right, OP’s ability to marginally shorten their commute is more important than public safety, and the times indicated on those signs are completely chosen at random so it doesn’t matter anyway.

        Good point.

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      How is life like being a lawful good little paladin? I break rules that don’t apply to me. This guy seems to have broken rules that apply to no one.

      You’re the guy saying the victim should have complied with the cop that murdered him.

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      Difference here is that he was correctly a clear mistake. OOP here did it for their own selfish reasons

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      This is done in a number of overpasses on the DC beltway and “mixing bowl”

      A road may go North while the other direction goes East and the signs will point that out but the road might actually be labeled South for a bit despite the sign saying East.

      So folks have rappelled off the overpasses and painted EAST and an arrow or NORTH and an arrow in places like this.

      And everyone clapped.

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    Did you know you can just rent a line painting tool and buy a high vis vest and hard hat?

    You can just get all the things you need to make a bike lane.

    Nobody will question you.

    Be the change.

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    We have a road that goes under a bridge so that you can make a right to go east on a 4 lane road. People would sit at that corner waiting to go left and it caused massive backups. (Which made no sense, why go under the bridge then? Use a different corner and make a right to go west!). We asked the city to make it right turn only - they interpreted it slightly differently and thought we meant people were heading straight the wrong way up a one way, rather than turning to that corner, came and put a temporary sign. I went with one of my kids, wearing safety vests, and moved the temporary sign to the corner we wanted it at.

    Later the city came and put the permanent sign where we had it, and ALSO changed the paint on the road to make it one way right at the corner and disallowed left turns INTO that corner, they just broadly said no left. Which is good. Nobody should be stopping at the bottom of a bridge to wait to make a left turn.

    It’s not like NOBODY does the left anymore, but there are not backups now because nobody is going to sit there waiting to go left, they get honked at.

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      I have on numerous occasions considered ordering bike route signage to place up on bike safe routes. The city has official signs for it but puts basically none up. If I could just order a lot more to put up it could encourage more folks to join.

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        I’m French, so we have the standard European signs, which should be easy enough to order 👀

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    My friends and I stole a speed limit sign over a decade ago and they still haven’t replaced it.

    They did replace the one on the other side of the road about 4 years ago.

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      20 years ago, our town had a war over an intersection.

      Someone decided to upgrade a 3 way intersection, for a a dirt road going into the woods off a main artery. (rumored someone in town planning bought a house on that road and was trying to make it so they didnt have to wait a long time for a gap in traffic)

      So they made it a 3 way stop unsteady of just the dirt road having a stop sign. This caused tragic to back up miles on either side, as it was pretty much the only stop on the main road going out to the town’s comercial district (100s of work vehicles traveling it at 9 and 5)

      Almost immediatley, People started coming out with chain saws, and wpuld cut down the 4x4 wood signpost. Leaving the stump and the concrete block in the ground. Fairly quickly, the town ran out of room on the narrow strip between the road and the bike path, and started hammering in metal posts, wedged between the buried cement supports.

      Guys with welders on their trucks started cutting those down flush with the ground. At one point, a cop car was stationed there overnight.

      The police report detailed 2 trucks, with chain strung between them, driving on either side of the post at speed, wrapping the sign, and tearing it out of the ground before dropping the chain.

      Thst was about as far as it got before town meeting, where an inquest was called for into the appropriateness , and approval process, and who had put in the work order etc. (There was some passage about the planning board being able to make minor changes to signage, etc without impact studies, and going through the approval process (which includes open forum, and with enough detractors to a project can force it to be put to a vote)

      The main point of contention being how anyone qualified to be in that position could think that something that caused a 30-60 minute delay on a 5 mile road qualified as a ‘minor change’

      Iirc the whole thing ended with the town cementing over that little strip (covering over all the metal and wood protrusions, and effectively signaling a stop sign couldn’t be put there anymore) and then several members of the planing commision, resigning their posts, which made the inquest moot.