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  • I do believe and agree that there are a bunch of people who are lost causes. But I don’t think that makes truth unimportant. There’s a bunch of people still who do care about whether people are lying, who do think less of the left for this and would think better of it if the left, collectively, were more honest. I’m not American so I don’t know how many Trump voters this applies to (people would have you believe “none”, of course) but there are also swathes of people who think “both sides are just a bunch of lying bastards.” Well, we can try to tell them that, no, both sides are not the same. But also we can not be a bunch of lying bastards.

    Fundamentally, I don’t think anti-fascism wins by throwing away the principle of truthfulness. Aren’t we supposed to be better that?


  • You say something perfectly reasonable, but I don’t think it’s what you mean. Or if you do, this is not the context. I’m not playing devil’s advocate, I’m saying we should be careful about the off-hand accusations we make. We absolutely ought to be being honest when accusing people of doing wrong stuff - including the far right. Getting it wrong, especially with a casual disregard for the truth, does not help. You don’t combat fascism by just throwing more accusations around with the justification, “weeelll they’re bad people anyway, what does it matter if we accused them of something they didn’t do?”

    Making incorrect, baseless accusations damages the credibility of all similar accusations. So no, I’m not going to “advocate” for the SVP and ask “what if they’re actually a bunch of stand-up guys,” but I am going to challenge what look like unlikely accusations. And judging by the couple of replies so far, this absolutely was intellectually vacuous mudslinging. The OP should do better.