Seems Johnson knows this. Both him and Trump will keep this shutdown going to stop the forced release of these files it seems. Don’t know what kind of plan they’re cooking up though.

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    It was obvious this was the case when they fought so hard to prevent the release. They continued with it even when it’s clear that the actions they’re taking to keep it hidden it’s damaging for them.

    My bet is that there’s video evidence of Trump raping a minor, or maybe a recording of him admitting it. I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

    At this rate they’re gonna keep this up until Trump dies.

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      I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

      Like their podcast “heroes”, I’m just asking questions here, but:

      What if Trump didn’t just rape kids? He had beauty pageants where he admitted to walking in on naked teenagers to “inspect” them. He walked around “interviewing” contestants, asking them about their lives. He himself specifically chose a decent percentage of the finalists - and by claiming those spots for certain chosen people, significantly reduced the chances for other contestants. And there were not only the contestants, but a bunch of wannabe contestant-types on the fringes. And a lot of those contests were held overseas.

      So, just asking questions here, but: what if Donald Trump wasn’t just raping kids? What if he was actively involved in recruiting and trafficking them?

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        It’s hard to speculate on things like that, but when he openly admitted to reporters that Epstein took girls from his spa, it means the investigation would have to be reviewing such

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        Perhaps Trump is also a cannibal; who knows, maybe… the man doesn’t seem to have any morals at all.

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          Well we know his food preferences are worse than abysmal so. I doubt the cannibal thing unless the baby is well done with ketchup.

          Still with trump it never gets better you know?

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        This was my thought as well. A lot of what has come to light feels like he may have been more than a customer for Epstein and possibly a supplier via his businesses and Russian criminal contacts

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          Oh yeah he did that. Also stuck his fingers in their mouths to “check their teeth” per Noel Cassler.

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        Trump wasn’t just a customer. He was Epstein’s partner and Mar-a-Lago was a hub for international sex trafficking, including child sex trafficking.

        They’re not the Epstein files. They’re the Trump files.

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          This is my thought as well. He has to be in there to such an extent that if they removed all mention of him, what was left would fit on a fucking post it. Otherwise they would have tried to release it with a few pages “lost” and blamed Biden.

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      I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

      Active participation in not just the rape but the trafficking operation, the big reveal being that he actually solicited these “services” to tons of so far unnamed people?

      Remember this isn’t just about Trump. He’s protecting those padding his pockets and pulling his strings.

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        Don’t forget killing. Maybe they pushed an underage girl out of a jet at altitude. Wouldn’t be off brand.

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          Not easy or safe to the passengers on the plane. It also doesn’t disappear the body.

          Overall this seems like the least likely thing that could have happened.

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            Yeah i mean, he’s a coward too. Maybe on one of his coke fueled helicopter rides to Atlantic City tho.

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          Nah. He wasn’t wrong when he said his followers wouldn’t give a damn if he shot a man in the middle of Fifth Ave.

          The only thing MAGA actually seems to genuinely care for - aside from their constant need to feed their rage and despicable beliefs like racism - is being against paedophilia. They might not care enough about kids to actually offer their tax money to ensure all of them gets to eat, gets proper education, but at the very least a majority of them doesn’t want powerful men to rape them. Which, I guess, is a small win?

          Therefore anything that is truly damaging to Trump will be kid-diddling related.

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      There could be video of him and his mushroom penetrating someone underage and so many of his meathead cult members will claim it’s “AI” or something.

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      There actually IS a piss tape and it’s underage girls involved. I’m sure Epstein’s circle included unscrupulous Russian oligarchs.

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      How is that more dancing then what he has already said. Walking in on miss green US change rooms grabbing them by the pussy. He has literally admitted to sexual assaulting the contestants and nobody cares. Just like when/if these files come out nobody well care.

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        I don’t think that’s the case. He said both things but not at the same time. Those are two different gross stories getting mashed together.

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      bet is that there’s video evidence of Trump raping a minor

      Just delay until AI video is good enough to claim it’s AI.

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    This is the Panama papers all over again. Another way of proving everyone in power is corrupt and we’ll do fuck all about it.

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      I think this is a little different because I believe in unreleased form this is more of a monkey on the Trump fandom’s back. Had they just been released at the start, there would have been massive coverage for a week, but MAGA would believe that Trump’s different by being open and transparent about it, and Democrats are just whining and people would forget about it much like the Papers. Whereas this way, it’s clear the Republican swamp has something it REALLY doesn’t want to reveal, to the point they’d be willing to starve the country and hold the entire government hostage over releasing them.

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    Remember, this case is about dozens of rich men raping young girls and the only person who’s in jail is a women.

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    “Ok, so, yeah… We know that Trump did all these horrible things to children, but we can’t charge a sitting president because of a memo written by another corrupt Republican administration. Sorry our hands are tied! Oh we can’t impeach him either because… because fuck you that’s why. Sorry not sorry! Vote R in the midterms though! Communism! Be afraid!”

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      You can only impeach Trump for presidential actions. There are plenty of those.

      Epstein related presidential crimes are due to the cover up, not the parties

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        Not so, but only because of the non-legal-system apparatus of impeachment. They can impeach him for his bizarre clown makeup if they wanted, but they’d have to have the votes to remove him and the GQP will never fold or break. It will just keep getting more compressed and static until it becomes a black hole where no light can escape.

        Or, yeah, maybe it did that already.

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    Covfefe’s law: Trump always turns out to be worse than anyone imagined, even when you take into account Covfefe’s law.

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    Who would’ve thought our sitting president being a pedophile and best friends with one of the most notorious human traffickers in history would be such a problem? /s

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    Trump biographer Michael Wolff told the Daily Beast that he had personally seen “about a dozen Polaroid snapshots” of Trump and Epstein, in which Trump was photographed with several topless young women on his lap. Wolff said Epstein pulled the photos out of a safe and spread them out “like a deck of cards” on his dining room table.

    I bet that is the least compromising thing in those files.

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    How many people have access to the files right now? Not a single one is doing the right thing. Complicit. If I happened across those files, they would have to murder me to stop them leaking. The level of apathy genuinely makes me wonder if it’s wickedness or some sort of actual brain damage from some chemical or virus we haven’t found yet.

    Fuck

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      Did you not notice the part where Epstein committed suicide, Giuffre was hit by a bus, survived, and then committed suicide, and Maxwell was paid a closed-door visit by Trump’s personal fixer?

      They have and will continue to kill to keep these secrets.

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      If they’re leaked and not officially released, then Trump denying their authenticity (a given) will convince more idiot centrists.

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        The cynic in my thinks those files will do nothing. Short of photos of him raping children (and even then I’m not sure) he’s not losing any Republican votes.

        They could claim a mistake the first time… But they voted for that vile piece of shit a second time fully aware of what a disgusting piece of crap he is.

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    I mean, they’re hosting a historical shutdown specifically to prevent their release. We already knew they were damning.

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    The files they don’t have that don’t exist that don’t incriminate anyone on a list that is not real that is a hoax is worse than they ever imagined.

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      i mean looking up what the usa did, they definitly dont come accross as the good guys.

      and like even that it is called “fighting against american culture”… i dont know, noone called it " fighting against communist/ russian culture" back then either in the usa

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        it is called “fighting against american culture”…

        That’s a good thing.

        American exceptionalism has been a constant background theme in their movies, TV shows, publishing and other “cultural exports” since the start of their country.

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          im probably wrong, but i feel like i only have had this phrase ever heard beeing used to describe stuff the middle east

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    RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES PEDONALD

    I wouldn’t doubt it if he diddled little boys too. Or at least laughed when his close friends did. Disgusting fucking cancer…

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    Yup. Keep your eye on the prize. It’s shocking and sad that a whole political party got culty for a pedo, but here we are.