I would waterboard myself with a tall cold frothy glass of whole chocolate milk. I’m a dirty little milk slut. I think I was essentially stockholmed into it. I remember being like “ew fat bad” as a kid and drinking skim for cereal. But somewhere down the line that turned into me just slopping heavy whipping cream neat. I mean fuck me I’m drinking a chocolate milk on my walk to work right fucking now.
I once drank so much chocolate milk in a short time that I almost puked. Was like almost 2L
I once drank so much milk I did puke. 10/10 experience tbh, cause like, I love milk. But also that was a good solid push during the purge phase of that.
Yeesh, drinking that much fluid in one go can be really dangerous, yeah.
This is true, but drinking two liters of milk is a lot less dangerous than drinking two liters of water, because that much water at once will throw your electrolyte balance off, and that’s what can kill you. Milk has electrolytes in it so the effect isn’t necessarily as dire. But… still wouldn’t recommend it.
4/10 body returned the product
Fuck I did once drink 3L of water in the span of 20 minutes just to see how much I could drink. After about 2.5L you can barely even drink at all. Not to mention how hard you have to go piss
Water also has electrolytes in it, unless you are drinking RO or distilled water (which is perfectly safe by the way, the urban myth that drinking distilled water will kill you is incorrect)
Once I learned fat is good, I started laying heavy layers of butter, lots of cheese, drinking whole milk, etc. And it tastes good, because we’ve evolved to like what’s good for us.
because we’ve evolved to like what’s good for us.
Lots of tasty berries will kill you. So will tons of would-be herbs. Processed sugar is delicious. So are a lot of foods with trans fats. Cyanide apparently tastes like almonds. And kids ate lead paint chips because they were sweet.
Nice job, evolution!
We also developed brains to learn which things will kill us despite tasting good, so that’s fine. Very good job, evolution!
Yeah that part is true, I’m just saying that something tasting good doesn’t mean it’s good for you
In certain cases, sure. But for the most part, if it tastes good and can be found in nature ready to eat, it’s usually good for you. But yes yes yes, certain conditions apply, etc etc yadda yadda.
Cow’s milk is good food.
“But some people are lactose intolerant!”
Too bad for them.
“Saturated fat clogs arteries! You’re gonna have a heart attack!”
It’s far more complicated than that, and not nearly as big a concern as most people think.
That milk isn’t for you. It’s stolen.
ok
No food stolen from the oppression of other beings can be good food. Cow’s milk is for baby cows only.
Agreed, but people without toes should also be tolerated.
toelerated*
Uhh, the people saying saturated fats clog arteries are right. Which is why the American Heart Association recommends aiming to keep it under 6% of total calories, as well as seeking to replace saturated fats with sources of unsaturated fats.
You are absolutely on a path to heart attack if you don’t reign in those kinds of foods.
Big Milk is so powerful, I’ve had older women in China ask me how I got so tall if I don’t drink milk.
This is China, with no history of drinking cows milk and like 90% of the population is lactose intolerant.
Lactose tolerance in adulthood is the mutation. Intolerance is the normal case for most humans. And most humans are tolerant to lactose in childhood.
In fairness, China’s southern and western provinces have historically been on the shorter side. But also, like… Yao Ming.
90% of the population is lactose intolerant
You can improve lactose tolerance if you introduce milk to kids at an early age and drink it continuously. My 50s-era Jewish family are all horribly lactose intolerant, but I grew up chugging the stuff and do just fine with it. Plenty of ABCs can and do drink milk and eat dairy, just as a matter of living in a country so full of cows and cow-products.
What happens in another 20-40 years, as we obliterate our grazing lands and drive the cost cow products skyward? Idk, man. But milk is a consumer staple for a reason. Calorically dense. Very useful in cooking/baking. Relatively cheap to produce and distribute. Goes well over cereal.
If milk did not exist, we would have to invent it.
We did invent superior forms of milk, such as oat milk.
We invented alternatives, definitely. But there are still plenty of trade-offs. Much lower in calories and saturated fats, for instance.
If you’re trying to fatten up a skinny little baby (as I’m currently working on, having placed with a toddler a few months back) the pediatrician is going to stare daggers at you if you say you’ve been giving the kid oat milk rather than whole milk. Literally had this conversation already and got hit in the head with a stack of literature just for asking.
Calorically dense.
Pretty sure most people in USA don’t need more calories.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK611097/
Relatively cheap to produce and distribute.
Dairy is literally the least sustainable and least efficient form of food production next to meat and palm oil.
https://www.trvst.world/sustainable-living/worst-foods-for-the-environment/
Pretty sure most people in USA don’t need more calories.
Milk is a highly effective method of fattening kids up who are malnourished or otherwise underfed. Whole milk is the go-to for toddlers coming off breastmilk/formula for a reason.
Dairy is literally the least sustainable and least efficient form of food production next to meat and palm oil.
Natural gas is a leading contributor to climate change. It is also the cheapest (for the moment) form of energy per kWh.
“Sustainability” is not the same thing as “Cheap” or “Easy to Distribute”. Quite the opposite.
Now, a lot of our cheap milk is a byproduct of our intensive animal agriculture, which is highly profitable but dismally inefficient. If that changes (because we killed a big chunk of our cow herds by mismanaging grazing land and water rights and fucking up disease mitigation) then I can see a world in which cow-milk drops off the menu quickly.
So, hey, let me know if that changes.
The aggression and name calling in that second image reminded me of r/neverbrokeabone. I don’t miss much about reddit, but that particular subreddit was pretty damn funny usually.
Someone would post an X-ray of a broken pinky they got in a car crash and everyone would be like “GTFO of here with your little baby bird bones, you calcium-deficient piece of shit!”
Hey I’m part of the club!
I hate milk so much. The taste, the texture. Just the thought of drinking a glass of milk again makes me want to projectile vomit. I had to drink a glass of milk for dinner every night as a kid. I wasn’t allowed to leave the table until it was gone. Sometimes I’d sit there for an hour just trying to force myself to drink it. My parents were like, just drink the milk, it’s not so bad, get it over with, but it felt like being tortured every night. I was violently ill afterwards almost every time.
Turns out I’m both lactose intolerant and neurodivergent. Yes I was being a little drama queen, but I at least had reasons :)
Weird. I loved milk as a kid and still do. We were never forced to drink it, but we were encouraged a bit. One of my favorite snacks was banana chocolate milk, and I still enjoy a bowl of cold cereal.
The only thing I was forced to eat as a kid was veggies.
give me and place
kinky.
Carnist brainwashing is a real thing that’s rampant in our fascist society.
Milk is fascism. Kinda takes the bite out of the word “fascism.”
When I was growing up we went through a gallon a day. Fucking love milk.
I can remember when I’d come home from high school, if I smelled oatmeal chocolate chip cookies, I’d know my mom would have saved me some of the dough in a Tupperware in the fridge. I’d get it, a spoon, and a half gallon jug of milk and sit down in front of the TV until they were both gone.
I was super active, and really skinny, but it still seems funny to think about now.
Pretty happy I grew up with hippy parents who raised me on almond and soy milks 😤
Ironic, I feel exactly the same way as one of the other commenters further up the thread, but about rice milk, because my parents forced me to drink it with dinner.
I guess my parents didn’t force me to eat, so I just had what they put out.
Milk used to make me so sick my little ten year old body projectile vomitted it across the breakfast table and my parents, who’d seen 10¹⁰ milk commercials, were like “maybe you’re not drinking enough milk.”
I’m gen z and the milk propaganda was everywhere lmao, what’s this person talking about
I think one big difference is that many people now recognize it as propaganda, whereas I remember a time when that stuff was just taken as wisdom and the dairy industry seemed to be a part of the health industry (that was also assumed to be in it for society’s good rather than profit). Losing that trust was pretty big.
I’m a young millennial and it was still going strong in the 00s, so I believe it. My family of 5 no joke went through 1.5-2 gallons PER DAY in ~2005
I used to have to drink a glass of milk with every meal when I was growing up, I didn’t even have the option of water, it was milk or nothing. I stopped drinking milk when I moved out. I haven’t had a glass of milk in 25 years. I still consume dairy, I just don’t drink a glass of straight milk.
I mean, milk is nowhere near the super food they sold us back in the day… but it’s far from the toxic sludge people put in their bodies daily nowadays.
Even a coke seems mild compared to the monster drinks and whatever other crap Logan Paul is peddling today
I am doing a lean bulk and it turns out milk is incredibly high protein so now I’m drinking more than I probably did as a kid. Easy way to get the calories and feel full. And chocolate milk… well.
Well no wonder you didn’t fulfill your potential.
I don’t drink much milk nowadays just because I mostly drink water, but when I do have milk on the fridge… it’s gone in two days max unless I carefully ration it.
nothin’ like a cold glass o’ melk
I’m exactly the same, and it was always 2%. I was always a slow eater, I’d always be hoping and waiting for the moment my parents would leave the room for a min so I could run to the sink and pour it down the drain. I asked as an adult if they had ever realized I had been dumping it if they left and somehow they never suspected.
Giving up dairy was surprisingly more challenging than giving up animal flesh. I felt subtle withdrawal symptoms for months on a physical level, that was reminiscent of quitting nicotine. But on the plus side my body as a whole felt distinctly better, far less inflamed after quitting all of that and replacing it with foods that are mostly anti-inflammatory (except when I binge on chips or popcorn).
But sometimes I wonder, how much does carrying guilt impact the body?
Guilt probably raises cortisol levels.
Could you recommend some easy to digest foods, which work well as anti inflammatories? Like, which have you noticed having a great effect compared to some with a low effect?
I ask as I get gut inflammation quite badly.
One thing to keep in mind is that reducing and removing pro-inflammatory foods is equal, if not more important, because otherwise you are just perpetually trying to heal from the same wounds you keep freshly laying down. When it comes to gastrointestinal problems, things get complicated. I’ve found three specialists on the subject whose work might help you. One is Dr. Sean Spencer. The other, whose books might be exactly what you’re looking for, is Dr. Will Bulsiewicz. And the last is Dr. Alan Desmond.
I’d like to give you a convenient list of foods, but for those of us with these illnesses, each one is a unique quagmire to untangle and I haven’t even fully solved my own gut illness yet (though my symptoms are consistently much better than they used to be).
This is incredibly helpful, thank you so much!
I have diverticular disease, which occasionally gets set off. It can be a real mess sometimes!
I am a manly man and I only put soy milk in my coffee. You can pry the bean milk from my unbreakable bones!
Has anybody else been surprised by what an ‘r’ could have done to the last sentence?
We also had the food pyramid, which said we should eat tons and tons of bread and grain.
From a general population health perspective, the pyramid was a pretty good system. It was basically an attempt to simplify the Mediterranean pattern. I like the Power Plate better though.
I was raised on the food shape, so my diet shunned fancy foods and consisted mostly of aspic and curried cheese
Ah yes, cigarettes and milk. My favorite food group.
Honest representation of the health effects of milk.
I’d have a cigarette for breakfast followed by a bowl of heavy cream. Then I’d go work one half-hour, two half-hour…
That’s more or less how it should be, but with whole grains instead of the ultra-processed stuff. Your diet should be something like:
- 50-60% carbs (ideally complex carbs), with lots of fiber
- 20-30% protein
- 20-25% fat
Each group has sub-categories, but generally speaking, you should bulk up on grains (rice, whole wheat, corn, etc), get lots of great fruits and veggies, enough protein, and fill in the rest as you like.
Like so much. I couldn’t keep up.
