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Kinda off topic, but I hate seeing this picture.
But to Uvalde residents and officials investigating the shooting, the footage showed something else. The officer depicted is Ruben Ruiz, whose wife, Eva Mireles, lay dying inside one of the classrooms with the gunman.
Mireles told Ruiz in a phone call that she had been shot. Ruiz, standing in the hallway with his pistol drawn, was unable to get to her. Other officers ultimately escorted Ruiz from the scene and took his gun. Mireles was alive when police transported her from the classroom, but she died before reaching the hospital.
So maybe let’s not post this any more?
Yeah that’s a tough situation, man. On the one hand you’d risk anything to save your wife’s life. On the other hand you have to guarantee above all that your kids don’t lose BOTH their parents.
The job he took should demand he focus first on saving all possible victims. No, he should not have to guarantee that above all, he’s paid to prioritize saving victims.
I don’t mean to be mean or pedantic, but the police are not paid to save victims, or even prevent crimes or enforce morals. They are paid to enforce the law, and nothing else.
Its why a major part as to why they suck so bad.
I mean if we’re being 💯, then they’re paid to enforce the law for wealthy capitalists. They don’t give a shit if your house gets robbed.
It is against the law to shoot people.
You’re not wrong. But this situation is so twisted that it is almost like a philosophy thought experiment. Obviously he’s thinking about more than just his job protocols.
Watch this from PBS:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/inside-the-uvalde-response/
It was more complicated than running in guns blazing. Which, yeah, they should have done, in retrospect. Yeah, they should have trained for such an event, in retrospect.
I’m not excusing the cops, and neither does the documentary, but the whole event was a Bulgarian clusterfuck of Biblical proportions.
CAVEAT: Gonna take some guts to make it the whole hour on that documentary, but you gotta do it if you want to form an opinion.
EDIT: Apparently the downvoters don’t have to the balls to face evidence. How so very conservative.
There’s no simple tl;dr: soundbite here. But if y’all want to stick to what you learn from headlines, you’re no better than the fascists who do the exact same thing. We are not on the same “side”.
It’s a common event in America and an easily predictable possibility. No, they should’ve been fully trained for it even from a perspective prior to the event. Doubly so in gun and maga ridden texas
You didn’t have time to watch the video before you posted this. Your opinion means nothing until you have done so, then we can have a reasoned discussion. That was rather the point of my whole fucking post.
This is why I don’t seek leftist allies IRL. You are no better than conservative, FaceBook Boomers. You believe everything fed to you in your chosen echo chamber(s). Your opinion is molded by sound bites.
Most of you people comment without reading past the headline. FFS, most online media these days is written at a 4th-grade level and most Americans can’t read past 6th.
…what? I don’t need to watch the video to understand the basic facts of reality in America. I’m not watching gore just so that I won’t change my mind as it will not present any information that would change the reality of America.
You have 4th grade statistical analysis skills if you think it wasn’t a predictable and important to learn to deal with probability.
That was rather the point of my whole fucking post.
And your post was wrong dipshit.
You believe everything fed to you in your chosen echo chamber(s). Your opinion is molded by sound bites.
That’s a hilarious take. The number of people with my circle of politics beliefs is so rare that I can barely even find one to have a circle with. My opinions are home grown thank you!
No one prioritized saving victims at Uvalde.
Of course no one did, that’s the issue
I think it’s more about the stress and ability to perform in that situation. Saying leaving isn’t his decision.
It is the best possible example how useless the police are, and why they should be changed/removed.
But that cop was only useless because he was prevented from taking action by other cops. It’s not his fault
If it was a different cop’s wife what do you think he would have done? He would have prevented that cop from going to save her. They only care when it happens to them. He should not have let his buddies drag him away and maybe his wife and some of those kids would still be here
He should not have let his buddies drag him away and maybe his wife and some of those kids would still be here
No, that is the point. I am not saying this particular cop is weak or not doing his job, I am saying the problem is systematic, we as people should not allow this situation to happen at first place.
Neoliberals, not Dems.
Don’t let them convince you that they’re the only option with a D by their name
I dunno man, seems like the DNC only lets you get the D if you are neolibed up
Obama abandoned the DNC when he was in office, out of spite because they were working with Hillary against him. Because they were still her and Bill’s people.
So the DNC was literally bought and paid for in 2016.
They didn’t know what the fuck to do and stuck with the same neoliberals for 2016-2020.
Biden won, but he nominated the neoliberals again.
Then, 2024, for the first time in decades, the voting members of the DNC picked a nonbiased state chair instead.
Like, I criticize the past DNC all the time. It’s still worse than most people realize, but today’s DNC is a completely different animal. Most people just don’t understand all this shit so think today’s DNC is in any way similar to the DNC a year ago.
The chair has complete and total control, and it’s a new chair
They may have a new chair, but how are they different? All I see is the same old Dems shitting on progressives and refusing to stand up to republicans.
All I see is the same old Dems shitting on progressives and refusing to stand up to republicans.
Well…
It sounds like you’re looking at elected representatives and for some reason you think they’re the DNC…
Neoliberals have been blurring that line for decades, so it’s a common misunderstanding of how our government works, specifically the party system.
The chair runs the party. And is accountable to no one. They don’t even have to show the books to anyone.
Neoliberals in office, prior DNC chairs, and state party chairs ran a corrupt system.
We got a non biased DNC chair now. But that didn’t fix the neoliberals in office, and while it helps the honest state parties and hurts the corrupt ones, fixing the state parties and replacing shitty incumbents still need done.
If you need reassurances about Ken Martin personally, look at how he ran Minnesota for a decade.
Spoiler: it turned a purple state we were losing ground in, to solid blue and home to some of our most progressive House reps. That’s because Martin legitimately doesn’t care who wins a Dem primary. He sees a primary as a chance for voters to pick the candidate most likely to win the general, and just goes with who voters pick
A neoliberal just can’t win a fair primary like that. So the result is progressive gains.
Well that sounds good. What structural changes has Martin instituted in the DNC to make sure the neoliberals can’t hijack the party again?
He’s running fair primaries…
That will allow a progressive to win the primary, and they’d be a slam dunk in the general.
When a Dem is elected president, they nominate a new DNC chair for a four year term. So Martin could very well just be a stepping stone if that hypothetical progressive president wanted to seat a chair who is biased for progressives, but honestly I hope we stick with a fair chair, secure in the knowledge that neoliberals can’t win a fair primary.
As such, the only danger to neoliberals taking the DNC back, is if idiots fall for Pritzker or Newsom and let a neoliberal thru the primary, because they’ll sure as shit nominate a biased neoliberal to run the DNC.
So…
He doesn’t need “structural changes” to stop neoliberals, he just isn’t doing all the bullshit they did.
Like, even talking about “structural changes” means you still don’t understand how powerful the chair is. They’re literally a dictator accountable to no one. If Martin wanted to he could just name a candidate for 2028, and it would be totally legally, but definitely not cool.
He can do whatever the fuck he wants, but so can whoever the next chair is. There’s nothing that can be changed today, that the next chair can’t change day 1.
It’s an incredibly fucked up and undemocratic system. But before we can replace it, we have to have control of it. And we just did the hardest part of that process, billionaire owned media just dont want people to know.
Edit:
But we’re currently in the middle of the largest reinvestment from DNC to state parties. After almost a decade of the DNC robbing state parties thru the “victory fund” bullshit.
That’s why Republicans got the House.
Martin redistributing that stolen wealth back to red/purple state parties is letting them operate at campaign levels already, laying the groundwork for midterms.
It’s not glamours, but it’s what the party should be doing.
They don’t seem keen on that NYC mayor guy.
They don’t seem keen on that NYC mayor guy.
Who’s “they”?
The DNC chair had this to say about Mamdani:
Well, first, it was a brilliant campaign. And there’s a lot of lessons.
One is, he campaigned for something. And this is a critical piece. We can’t just be in a perpetual state of resisting Donald Trump. Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump. There’s no doubt about it for all the reasons we just talked about. But we also have to give people a sense of what we’re for, what the Democratic Party is fighting for, and what we would do if they put us back in power.
And that’s really critical. And I think that’s one of the lessons from Mamdani’s campaign, is that he focused on affordability. He focused on a message that was resonant with voters, and he campaigned for something, not against other people or against other things. He campaigned on a vision of how he was going to make New York City a better place to live.
I think that’s one of the lessons. The other lessons, of course, is the tactics he used to get his message out, both a very aggressive in-person campaigning, meeting voters where they’re at, and then also in those digital spaces, using very creative messaging to cut through the noise and to get to voters in an inexpensive but authentic way.
There’s a lot to learn from that campaign, and I’m excited to learn more.
That was July 9th too, he’s not bandwagoning, it’s just billionaire owned media really don’t want you to know the person with absolute control over the DNC and it’s war chest supports Mamdani and candidates like him
That venn diagram is nearly a circle
Kinda like third party candidates and Russian assets
“You either support neoliberalism or you’re a Russian asset”
“You either support my party or you’re a traitor to my nation.” - Republicans and Democrats in 2025.
You either ensure the downfall of the united states via conservative policy or you’re an EvIl NeOlIbErAl
You’re the first one to say evil, but OK
I’ve seen this charade before.
Bro this is literally your own logic
Things must be getting bad, seems like a big uptick in “both sides” memes lately
I would still rather have the coward cops in charge than the active shooter
I want more options. The coward cop is perfectly willing to compromise and work across the aisle with the shooter to kill fewer kids because the idea of zero murdered children is a radical idea to the cowardly cop. He’s like “I’ll get to the bottom of this situation find out how many kids he needs to kill. If he says five I’ll get him down to three. Then we’ll work together with the parents of these kids and find out whose kids will live, together as a nation.”
People who want no kids killed in the situation are exremists, according to the cowardly cop, who want him to pass a purity test like “stop the shooter before he kills more kids”
So I want an option that says “I will actively stop school shooters frol shooting schools” but people who want the cop aren’t willing to betray the cop’s legacy and admit he needs to be fucking fired yesterday, so the next shooter, if there’s a school left, will actually be stopped or the new cop can be actually held accountable for failing so horribly without an army of unthinking drones defending them.
I totally agree.
Unfortunately unless we as citizens are dedicated (investing the time too coordinate and act) and educated (about the topics at hands, including the ones we do not care about) enough for anarchy we do need representatives.
If we are not ready for anarchism then we need a system with representatives. They do not have to be professionals and they could be temporary (e.g. max N years/mandate) or part time (e.g. max 10hrs/week) or whatever other rules we deem required.
If we are not ready for either then we leave a power vacuum that will be taken by whomever is more powerful, including those ready to use power in the most unethical ways, bribing, coercion, murder, etc.
So… even though 99.99% of politicians might be corrupt, maybe 99.999% even started uncorrupted (funnily enough not even a word in my browser dictionary) but the system itself in order to reach and hold power did corrupt them, the alternative is IMHO even worst.
That being said don’t ask me to point out a .00% of uncorrupted politicians. I do have some ideas but even there I didn’t do the background check necessary so I might be biased.
Finally why do I bother writing this? Well because I worry that the power vacuum can be created and then abused by political actors outside of democracies.
Anarchy doesn’t mean chaos, a lack of social order, Mad Max, or a power vacuum. Depending on which flavor of anarchism we’re talking about, political power is distributed among the population evenly.
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
— Buckminster Fuller
I’m not sure what you are clarifying for but I can at least make my point more explicit : I didn’t use anarchism in a derogatory manner, on the contrary. I was trying to highlight that anarchism, like democracy, is demanding because it demands of its participants to actually take part.
anarchism, like democracy,
???
Anarchism is democracy. Democracy is not only representative democracy, that’s probably the least democratic form behind the exclusionary types (men only, landowners only, nobles only, etc).
I disagree with the assertion of a power vacuum because anarchists propose new power structures, not the chaotic capitalist strawman.
And we aren’t dedicated or educated enough for representatives either - garbage in, garbage out. Representation isn’t a filter through which bad votes become good policy. We’re destroying the biosphere at maximum speed because voters are misinformed.
I think he addressed that though. Anarchy requires knowledgable participation in small sections of the responsible governance that would normally go to representatives.
To put it in simple terms, people don’t need to know how to build bridges, but they need to understand they, as with every other person in the village, are each tasked with carrying one boulder to a piling in the river.
There is no safe way to outsource the organization of society - we all need to learn civics, or an anarchist equivalent. It’s the same voters either way, and where voters lack knowledge we see corruption, not altruistic leadership.
The intermediary layer of representatives no longer serves a useful purpose, and introduces a principal agent problem.
There could be intermediary steps. As just one example, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_confederalism
democratic confederalism defends a “type of organization or administration [which] can be called non-state political administration or stateless democracy”,[1] which would provide the framework for the autonomous organization of “every community, confessional group, gender specific collective and/or minority ethnic group, among other”.[4] It is a model of libertarian socialism[18][19][20] and participatory democracy[24] built on the self-government of local communities and the organization of open councils, town councils, local parliaments, and larger congresses,[4] where citizens are the agents of self-government, allowing individuals and communities to exercise a real influence over their common environment and activities.
Hint: They’re both republicans.
Anybody who doesn’t explicitly oppose FPTP actually supports the Republicans. They are playing dumb, and DINO voters are dumb to keep falling for it.
This sounds like more “Don’t bother voting” propaganda.
I’m suggesting that you vote for people who are against FPTP.
Well, thank you for clearing that up.
Yup.
Isn’t the government shut down? I dont know what magical powers you think they have. Give them a majority, I guarantee things wont be as shit as they are today. Won’t be sunshine and rainbows either but if you want to eat the turd sandwich over smelling a fart, thats on you.
Huh? The government shutdown like a day ago. But yes, a true unobstructed majority would certainly improve things.
Ok, 15, not 1. Trump’s term is now nearly a year in, which is significantly more than 2 weeks.
I said shut it down 9 months ago but Schumer doesn’t take notes from me.
Key thing moving forward is to just recognize when the dems are doing something, anything, and give what ever support you can muster. The truth is the fix is in. Voting machines, compromised, voting rights act, gutted. We are locked into an accelerationist wet dream and the true consequences are slowly making their way to you. Won’t be long before you really start to feel them. Like its October and havent even worn a sweater yet. Like global warming you ain’t cooked until you feel the boil.
Conservatives are the school shooter. Conservatives are the cops sitting outside for an hour. Progressives are trying to seize enough of a majority to stop the shooter and regulate gun ownership to prevent future shootings.
Lol, nice joke.
Where does that put everyone who didn’t vote?
They’re in the short bus parked outside.
ableism
I’m autistic. Don’t give me your soapbox shit lol.
They all work for Israel anyway https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
Israel and the USA are two arms of the same entity. Both are entirely controlled by the capitalist hegemony.
Republicans are Jimmy from mouthwashing.
Democrats are Curly.
Leftists are Swansea.
