But to Uvalde residents and officials investigating the shooting, the footage showed something else. The officer depicted is Ruben Ruiz, whose wife, Eva Mireles, lay dying inside one of the classrooms with the gunman.
Mireles told Ruiz in a phone call that she had been shot. Ruiz, standing in the hallway with his pistol drawn, was unable to get to her. Other officers ultimately escorted Ruiz from the scene and took his gun. Mireles was alive when police transported her from the classroom, but she died before reaching the hospital.
Yeah that’s a tough situation, man. On the one hand you’d risk anything to save your wife’s life. On the other hand you have to guarantee above all that your kids don’t lose BOTH their parents.
The job he took should demand he focus first on saving all possible victims. No, he should not have to guarantee that above all, he’s paid to prioritize saving victims.
I don’t mean to be mean or pedantic, but the police are not paid to save victims, or even prevent crimes or enforce morals. They are paid to enforce the law, and nothing else.
You’re not wrong. But this situation is so twisted that it is almost like a philosophy thought experiment. Obviously he’s thinking about more than just his job protocols.
It was more complicated than running in guns blazing. Which, yeah, they should have done, in retrospect. Yeah, they should have trained for such an event, in retrospect.
I’m not excusing the cops, and neither does the documentary, but the whole event was a Bulgarian clusterfuck of Biblical proportions.
CAVEAT: Gonna take some guts to make it the whole hour on that documentary, but you gotta do it if you want to form an opinion.
EDIT: Apparently the downvoters don’t have to the balls to face evidence. How so very conservative.
There’s no simple tl;dr: soundbite here. But if y’all want to stick to what you learn from headlines, you’re no better than the fascists who do the exact same thing. We are not on the same “side”.
It’s a common event in America and an easily predictable possibility. No, they should’ve been fully trained for it even from a perspective prior to the event. Doubly so in gun and maga ridden texas
You didn’t have time to watch the video before you posted this. Your opinion means nothing until you have done so, then we can have a reasoned discussion. That was rather the point of my whole fucking post.
This is why I don’t seek leftist allies IRL. You are no better than conservative, FaceBook Boomers. You believe everything fed to you in your chosen echo chamber(s). Your opinion is molded by sound bites.
Most of you people comment without reading past the headline. FFS, most online media these days is written at a 4th-grade level and most Americans can’t read past 6th.
…what? I don’t need to watch the video to understand the basic facts of reality in America. I’m not watching gore just so that I won’t change my mind as it will not present any information that would change the reality of America.
You have 4th grade statistical analysis skills if you think it wasn’t a predictable and important to learn to deal with probability.
That was rather the point of my whole fucking post.
And your post was wrong dipshit.
You believe everything fed to you in your chosen echo chamber(s). Your opinion is molded by sound bites.
That’s a hilarious take. The number of people with my circle of politics beliefs is so rare that I can barely even find one to have a circle with. My opinions are home grown thank you!
If it was a different cop’s wife what do you think he would have done? He would have prevented that cop from going to save her. They only care when it happens to them. He should not have let his buddies drag him away and maybe his wife and some of those kids would still be here
He should not have let his buddies drag him away and maybe his wife and some of those kids would still be here
No, that is the point.
I am not saying this particular cop is weak or not doing his job, I am saying the problem is systematic, we as people should not allow this situation to happen at first place.
Kinda off topic, but I hate seeing this picture.
So maybe let’s not post this any more?
Yeah that’s a tough situation, man. On the one hand you’d risk anything to save your wife’s life. On the other hand you have to guarantee above all that your kids don’t lose BOTH their parents.
The job he took should demand he focus first on saving all possible victims. No, he should not have to guarantee that above all, he’s paid to prioritize saving victims.
I don’t mean to be mean or pedantic, but the police are not paid to save victims, or even prevent crimes or enforce morals. They are paid to enforce the law, and nothing else.
Its why a major part as to why they suck so bad.
I mean if we’re being 💯, then they’re paid to enforce the law for wealthy capitalists. They don’t give a shit if your house gets robbed.
It is against the law to shoot people.
You’re not wrong. But this situation is so twisted that it is almost like a philosophy thought experiment. Obviously he’s thinking about more than just his job protocols.
Watch this from PBS:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/inside-the-uvalde-response/
It was more complicated than running in guns blazing. Which, yeah, they should have done, in retrospect. Yeah, they should have trained for such an event, in retrospect.
I’m not excusing the cops, and neither does the documentary, but the whole event was a Bulgarian clusterfuck of Biblical proportions.
CAVEAT: Gonna take some guts to make it the whole hour on that documentary, but you gotta do it if you want to form an opinion.
EDIT: Apparently the downvoters don’t have to the balls to face evidence. How so very conservative.
There’s no simple tl;dr: soundbite here. But if y’all want to stick to what you learn from headlines, you’re no better than the fascists who do the exact same thing. We are not on the same “side”.
It’s a common event in America and an easily predictable possibility. No, they should’ve been fully trained for it even from a perspective prior to the event. Doubly so in gun and maga ridden texas
You didn’t have time to watch the video before you posted this. Your opinion means nothing until you have done so, then we can have a reasoned discussion. That was rather the point of my whole fucking post.
This is why I don’t seek leftist allies IRL. You are no better than conservative, FaceBook Boomers. You believe everything fed to you in your chosen echo chamber(s). Your opinion is molded by sound bites.
Most of you people comment without reading past the headline. FFS, most online media these days is written at a 4th-grade level and most Americans can’t read past 6th.
…what? I don’t need to watch the video to understand the basic facts of reality in America. I’m not watching gore just so that I won’t change my mind as it will not present any information that would change the reality of America.
You have 4th grade statistical analysis skills if you think it wasn’t a predictable and important to learn to deal with probability.
And your post was wrong dipshit.
That’s a hilarious take. The number of people with my circle of politics beliefs is so rare that I can barely even find one to have a circle with. My opinions are home grown thank you!
No one prioritized saving victims at Uvalde.
Of course no one did, that’s the issue
I think it’s more about the stress and ability to perform in that situation. Saying leaving isn’t his decision.
It is the best possible example how useless the police are, and why they should be changed/removed.
But that cop was only useless because he was prevented from taking action by other cops. It’s not his fault
If it was a different cop’s wife what do you think he would have done? He would have prevented that cop from going to save her. They only care when it happens to them. He should not have let his buddies drag him away and maybe his wife and some of those kids would still be here
No, that is the point. I am not saying this particular cop is weak or not doing his job, I am saying the problem is systematic, we as people should not allow this situation to happen at first place.