Three times now. At this point I’m used to it and expecting it and have a pre-printed letter with questions to ask.
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“What kind of compensation package am I receiving and what are the terms?”
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“How long will I stay on company benefits after today?”
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“Will there be any opposition on this company’s part in my filing for unemployment insurance?”
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“Do I have any legal restrictions in seeking employment in the same industry?”
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“I have ordered several tons of fresh steer manure on the company card, to be delivered to the lobby by later this afternoon, do you fucking like that?”-
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“Ah I’m finally getting a promotion”
Happened to my partner, she worked from home 4 out of 5 days a week.
The company also had a lawyer there. All her accounts were locked by the end of the call, so she couldn’t exchange contacts with colleagues she liked. They sent a box and shipping label for her notebook, but never mentioned the two 27" Dell monitors and the height adjustable table.
Sucked at the time, but the gear they left us is pretty nice.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Among other things, I was in charge of on and offboarding and buying IT gear. HR basically told me if the employee won’t return the laptop we just have to suck it up. I may be misremembering, but legally speaking, we gave them the gear, no matter what paperwork they signed. And in no case would it pay to so much as begin legal action.
And no, we don’t want the monitors. Just not worse the hassle and shipping.
Most competent companies lock down laptops so that even if they didn’t return them, it would be a useless brick
None of the companies I have worked with do that. What we do instead is we disable their login, and we also make sure that the PC is encrypted, so that if they do not return it, they will, of course, have to pay us for it, and then they can wipe it and reinstall and do whatever they want to do with the physical hardware.
Most people just return the hardware. Actually, now that I think about it, I think only once did we have an issue with getting the hardware back and we had still ended up with the hardware back after like a nine month delay.
Ours wouldn’t brick the laptops, but we do have software on them that let’s us remote wipe them. They will do that if they dont get the device back in a timely manner.
Just in case it comes up later, since I assist in purchasing for the company I work for, what software is it?
As the other commenter said there are a lot of options. I used to be in charge of imaging and we just used SCCM to deploy. I had to pass on these roles as my responsibilities changed and the team that was getting it deemed it to complicated… go figure. They complained enough and found smart deploy and they accomplished getting it because of its ability to wipe pcs.
And in no case would it pay to so much as begin legal action.
Unless it’s very new equipment, financially its not worth the hassle.
Same reason they dont want the monitors or adjustable desk back, shipping would cost as much as they are worth and they’ve already deprecated away most if not all of the value which the court would take into account.
Lol got caught with her hand in the cookie jar?
Do you mean she got caught stealing? No. Just stupid startup bosses having to fire half their staff because they had to fly Europe to New York like every two weeks and buy new macbooks when they left theirs at the airport, among other things.
Oh I was forgetting that op might live in a country with shit labour laws.
Where I am that kind of firing they need to be pretty confident you’ve been stealing or you fucked up real bad and got caught trying to cover it up rather than owning it so it can get mitigated.
No, we have fairly good labor laws in Germany. There aren’t that many reasons why you could fire an employee legally – economic situation of the company being one – and I think they knew that argument was debatable. I think they just wanted to be on the safe side legally, and more importantly, they wanted to intimidate to dissuade people from suing for wrongful termination.
It needs to be illegal to fire people who aren’t doing a bad job in the US like they do in civilized countries
That doesn’t sound very shareholder-minded of you. /s
“not a team player”
My friend, who works as a license renewal and hiring manager at a large tech security firm, once shared something interesting with me. He said that when hiring under his company’s DEI standards, he sometimes had to bring on someone who wasn’t the strongest candidate for the role. The goal was to meet diversity requirements, but the tradeoff was that it occasionally meant hiring someone less qualified.
According to him, if a hire brought in under those standards didn’t perform well, it could be harder for the company to let that person go. The emphasis on maintaining diversity created extra pressure to hold on, even when performance wasn’t where it needed to be. That situation, understandably, can affect the rest of the team.
Personally, I don’t have anything against DEI. In fact, I think it helps reduce nepotism, which is a positive. But I also don’t think DEI always works out the way people imagine it will. Like many policies, it has both benefits and downsides.
The reason I bring this up is because I think it’s a slippery slope when governments start drawing hard lines about who can and cannot be fired. At the end of the day, what tends to matter most is whether someone makes the company money.
Take my friend as an example again: he’s only required to bring in $250,000 each quarter, but he actually brings in around $4 million. Because of that, he has survived multiple layoffs and has even been moved to different departments, simply because his performance makes him too valuable to lose.
Probation period is commonly 6 months during which time it’s basically at will employment. This is the time to figure out your hire and deal with it.
Nope, just got an email in my personal inbox and immediately cut off from everything
Just horrible. When I had to deal with people that I had to lay off or fire because they weren’t working out I would calmly sit down with them and say, “we need to work together on an exit plan for you”. I would then try to use my contacts to get them hooked up some place else and always give them a good recommendation.
That’s because you suffer the deadly condition of caring about the well being of others.
I’m usually early to work meetings, so this is usually how it feels till people drag themselves through the door 10 minutes later.
I once had that meeting, sort of
Only been with the boss and HR as a matter of performance once, I stayed for a shift I usually wasn’t on, and a manager I’d never met but only heard was a total hardass was having a shitty day (parent passed, but i had no idea, I’d never met this guy). He passes my workstation, first time meeting the dude, and chews me out for some computer shit. Totally fair - I was on reddit or something on a work computer and policy is not to, then a coworker across the floor does something humerous as manager is walking away. He files a report I laughed at him. I was under the impression I’d been written up for computer misuse the entire hr meeting, so thats what I defended and admitted to. In retrospect, fuck that guy and fuck that workplace, I got a 6 month probationary period for that. I served it no issues, but no wonder they have staffing issues and no wonder no one likes the managers.
If a department is dragging and gets better once someone is replaced, then you had an employee issue. If a department is dragging and you keep replacing employees, you’ve got a management/company issue.
Its a state facility. They don’t have turnover - they have churn. 200-300% churn annually. Good benefits though.
I rationed that in order for me to come back I’d need $70/hr to do that job again (100k annual after tax) and obviously they wont approve that lol
Your eyes and ears are deceiving you, the economy is in a new golden era commi.
It’s when you completely dismantle their issues, and they carry on repeating said point. Time to go then
Flashed your penis to ladies again?
“hey look, the news has gotten around, the head of HR and my line manager want to see my elephant impression too!”
And here I was thinking I was just doing them a favor. I thought that they would enjoy seeing it.
Twice.
Did you suspect it before the meeting started?
Not at all. The first time was when covid happened, the second time was when the startup I was at was struggling to raise funding. Both times they laid off 1/3 of the company.
I’ve been the boss…
Not by choice.
Charlie Kirk was a made guy, and we weren’t. And there was nothing we could do about it.
Ohhhhhh Nooooooo … (POWWWWW)!!!
