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    Sounds awesome not only you skipped the hardest part you have everything setup and get to live a good life. Unless of course that was your goal to experience building the colony.

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        guess you didnt play a lot of quests then. lot of them have good execution, namely the vanguard questline

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          It was decent and has its moments, but it only works because starfield is a universe where phones with cameras and the internet don’t exist, and instant communication only exists when the plot remembers it’s not Fallout, which is not often. Secret military research? Believable. Said research getting out of hand and destroying a whole colony? Believable. Nobody giving a single flying fuck to said colony outside the questline? Weird. Not a single mention of repression and censorship about the event? Even weirder. Then again, after the terrormorph attacks New Atlantis, nobody gives a fuck (because cameras and phones don’t exist, nobody is asking about relatives or friends that are missing), not even the “TV Station”. After the damage is removed from the city, instant amnesia hits everyone.

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    That’s another solution to the Fermi paradox. FTL travel is impossible, but can’t actually be proven to be impossible, so no one wants to be the sucker.

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    Not only that, but 3000 years into the future, language has changed so much that the plural of SHEEP is now SHOOP

    That’s right, androids do dream of electric SHOOP

    Shit’s wild yo

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        Have you seen how fast slang is evolving currently? I can’t even imagine translating something like “chat, am I cooked?” to my grandma.

        Also on a side note; have you noticed the rise in lisps?

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          True! Fad based language spreads like wildfire with modern tech! At the same time, I feel like trends like that fall out of favour just as fast. It’s definitely a wild time for language evolution.

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        3000 years is insanely long for language. Consider that the mother fucking alphabet was invented around 1000 BC*, and basically no languages that anyone still speaks existed in their modern forms. Homer hadn’t written the Illiad and the Odyssey yet, and the standard Greek that came to be defined by these works had also yet to develop. If you went back to 1000 BC you’d have no idea what was going on.

        *Although previous alphabets existed, the Phoenician alphabet that became the basis for pretty much all modern writing systems in Europe, North Africa, and Western Asia was invented around 1100 BC

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            I know I was just saying 3000 years and basically nobody alive today understands the language. Even people who devote their whole lives to the languages around at that time are basically just making informed guesses on pronunciation and would probably struggle considerably to understand an actual speaker.

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    Call that one a win.

    Take risk of signing up for a 3000 year hyper-sleep trip.

    Reap the rewards of being a pioneer without having to do any of the hard work.

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      join intergalactic ship pilgrimage hoping to be a pioneer to a new world

      Land to late stage capitalism and the same oppression you were just trying to escape.

      Id shoot myself immediately.

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        A mission in starfield (shit game but honestly decent writing at the very least) included just this. A generation ship finally arrived at its destination long after FTL travel was invented to find that the intended colony planet was already a fancy resort planet. You have to broker some kind of agreement between the parties.

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          It’s a couple of Star Trek episodes too. Similar idea is how they found Khan.

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        That’s why you outfit your ship with mass drivers.

        Any parasites roaming around on your paradise? A couple hundred rocks at 2% light speed will clear that up.

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          Nice nice, and in the 3000 intervening years they’ve developed alpha particle cannons that shred your entire swarm of rocks and puny physical spaceship to white hot quantum loops as they sip megachampagne on their continent sized airships as they watch your fleet unwillingly transition to light

          The gun that fired the barrage was the size of a juice box floating somewhere in orbit, they have millions of them

          You didn’t even get a chance to pull your finger off of the mass driver button

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    The first crew would face the most difficult challenges. Imagine the relief after expecting to establish the fundamentals of civilization, and instead are just assigned your living quarters.

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      I would definitely prefer to be a leader of new world than just be sent to my room.

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        I guess. I’m more of a space socialist, myself. Silly me always assumed that equality and collaboration would be a precursor to colonization of other worlds. Musk is trying so hard to prove me wrong. Lol

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          What if you set out with the idea of starting socialist utopia on a new planet and get there to find booming corporate dystopia?

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    3 Body Problem has an interesting take on this. Faster than light travel is not possible but communication is, meaning we’re anxiously preparing for an alien war that won’t happen for 400 years but they can see everything we do in real time thanks to quantum entanglement.

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      FTL coms are a concession to the story, it would have been terrible without it

      IRL quantum entanglement can’t ever provide causality breaking info. In very simple terms, you need correlation to know when the data stream began as just observing the resulting spins still seem just as random before and after the event.

      In even more simple terms: Whatever message they can send even if pre-agreed on seems like random heat results until you know the exact moment the transmission began, as confirmed by a light lagged message.

      In less simple terms, the misunderstanding comes from treating the metaphor of ‘flipping the spin north switch’ as a literal thing instead of a less-than ideal ‘lies to children’ of what is actually happening to particles that experience spin transition, and the meaning of ‘entangled’ is both less and more strange than people understand.

      But again, 3 body problem would have been a terrible story without it,t hat’s why it’s science fiction

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        From what I’ve heard the Chinese version is rather literal to the books to a fault.

        Having read the books I enjoyed the Netflix series, but understand they made some changes to both adapt it to a series (fine) and made a lot of characters westen (a bit unnecessary maybe).

        I am excited for season 2

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      Good show, fantastic books. Recommend to anyone reading this comment and are remotely interested in sci-fi. A lot of facinatong ideas explored throughout the series.

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      Good series, I always recommend the books but haven’t seen the show yet

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        I haven’t read the books, but I did watch the show… I enjoyed the first half, but the second half had so much implausible bullshit that I couldn’t really recommend it. I mean, the first half also had crazy impossible tech - but I feel that’s ok because its part of the setup premise. The stuff I didn’t like in the second half was more implausible decision making and strategising (and also implausible uses for impossible tech).

        In any case, I really feel like they wasted a strong setup. I was disappointed at the end, and I’m not intending to watch the next session.

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    Well at least you didn’t have to spend the rest of your life building civilisation from scratch.