• LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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    Sometimes, I feel regret that Romney didn’t beat Obama. Not because Romney would have been a better president. Just because of the timing, if Romney had won, then maybe Trump would never have become president, or at least he’d have been president later. Romney’s still a Republican, so it would have sucked, but Trump is fucking poison.

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      That’s an interesting thought… I can’t help but feel like it would have just delayed an inevitable outcome though, potentially allowing the underlying political movement even more time to grow and fester. It’s unknowable, but I feel like we’ll be pondering questions like that for a long time.

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        It seems like logically, we should feel lucky to have such an incompetent campy comic book villain con man as the face of their ridiculous movement. But it doesn’t feel like that at the time.

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        With all the nonsense about “fiscal conservatives”, people forget that the last administration to balance the budget was Clinton/Gore - and not only was the budget balanced, it actually had a fucking surplus. One of the big debate points going into the 2000 election cycle was what to do with this surplus. Naturally enough the surplus went towards tax cuts for the rich and now we’re fucking $35 trillion dollars in debt.

        Someone will weigh in here with “deficits don’t matter” and “the government can just print money if it needs it”.

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      Because much of what’s happening right now is a direct, racist reaction to the US having the gall to elect a black man president.

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        Its also a reaction to the Hope and Change candidate bailing out the banks who just stole millions of homes, bombed a dozen countries, sending the natl guard to shut down protests in furgison, both-sides a cop arresting a man in his own yard, deporting more people than W or Trump, giving us means-tested subsidies for health insurance.

        Obama disillusioned a generation with politics, hence why so many people stayed home in 2016. Biden did the same shit, and Newsom will do it again if given a chance.

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          I guess people think our memories are really that bad that we’d believe shit like this… OK bud.

          Dude literally said “both sides” lol

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            I’m guessing Obama was before your politcal awakening. Is there anything specificly I said you don’t believe and want more information on?

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                They lost to Donald fucking Trump, twice. Do you think Trump is a uniquely gifted politician? You have to have exceptional distain for your constituents if you can’t get them to come out when the alternative is the republicans.

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                  I’m not a fan of the Democratic party, I just hate the obvious bullshit double standard that’s everywhere.

                  The left just can’t not shoot itself in the foot. Always snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Care more about bullshit purity tests than stopping the literal fascists from destroying our republic.

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          He inherited that quagmire of illegal wars, it’s not something you can just withdraw from at the drop of a hat. It was either drones or boots on the ground, not exactly a stellar choice to be left with, and he chose to minimize American lives lost. Most certainly not defending any of America’s vile military engagements but the picture is a little bit more nuanced than that.

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            it’s not something you can just withdraw from at the drop of a hat

            Lol fucking Trump withdrew us from Afghanistan at the drop of a hat (although he timed it so that that particular mess was Biden’s to clean up).

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      I think a McCain victory would have been the best shot at averting the Trump wing. The Tea Party was the first manifestation of what we see now, and that was triggered by Obama’s first term.

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          I somehow mashed to forget her for a second…

          He probably would have made it up to the full 8 years, since he did in our timeline. I doubt Palin would have won a race.

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    In reality the Dems will do none of those things though. They won’t nationalize anything because they are neoliberals. They won’t fully defund ICE because they want racists to vote for them too. They’ll just reduce the budget and maybe stop putting kids in cages. They won’t shut down funding for the exec branch because they’ll say it is “irresponsible”.

    More things they’ll never do:

    • Demilitarise and defund the police
    • Provide free public healthcare and education for all
    • Raise taxes on billionaires
    • Stop mass surveillance programs
    • Reform the electoral system to allow proportional representation
    • Properly regulate and tax corporations
    • Stop providing weapons to their genocidal allies

    I’d love to be proved wrong, but I’m not gonna get my hopes up.

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      Shutting down funding for the executive program means cutting pretty much every program the government has, if you’re not going to reformat it. Which is not implied.

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        They should still do it and bring the country to a standstill if necessary. If extreme measures aren’t applicable now, when will they be? It’ll cause some short term pain, but it’ll get everyone out in the streets.

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        The person who posted the tweet in this post who suggested cutting funding was a Republican and now is a independent

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        Founding Fathers, 1776: Democracy is worth fighting and dying for! We must water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants. We must risk our fortunes and our lives so that our children can live in freedom.

        Democrats, 2025: Trump is a dictator destroying democracy, but we can’t risk temporarily shutting down government transfer payments in order to stop him.

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    if whoever is in charge next in the US does not burn down the white house as a symbol of starting over, I will be disappointed

    besides, think of all the Russian spy equipment that’s probably installed in there now

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      If they need help they can always ask the Brits/Canadians, since we have a lot of experience in that.

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        You think you’re the only countries that want a shot?

        Kumbaya with the s’mores and the world peace. Invite everybody!

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          That would be a neat tradition, to burn down the last seat of government. Maybe a little violent as a metaphor, but a fun spectacle!

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            I propose we abandon the notion of even having a capital city. Instead of a capital, each branch has its own arrangements:

            Legislative branch: Congress is supposed to be the branch that most closely represents the people. The site where Congress meets relocates after each census to the mean center of US population. They’ll be prohibited from constructing buildings of any kind. Congressional meetings will occur in rented spaces like high school gyms, convention centers, etc. Congress members won’t have to worry about expensive apartments, as they’ll be expected to sleep in quarters supplied to them, often in old dorm rooms, former homeless shelters, and other such communal living facilities.

            The Supreme Court: They’re supposed to be above it all. Let’s make that literal. They will be relocated to a new building constructed on the peak of Mt. Denali, the highest mountain in the US. SCOTUS justices once confirmed to the court will be expected to relocate to their new home. They will live in simple on-site monastic cells. The only way they are ever allowed down from the mountain is if they resign their seat or die of old age. All petitions to the court must be delivered on parchment scrolls carried up the mountain by hand. The only communication they are allowed with the outside world are court briefs and rulings.

            The executive: the president gets to literally be homeless. To keep them humble, the president will be ineligible to own private property of any kind. They will either have to sleep on the sidewalk or travel from home to home, accepting shelter from whomever will give it to them. They can stay on the property of any one person no more than 3 days over their entire presidential term. Also we’ll make it perfectly legal to kill the current sitting president. The president literally does not get the protection of the law. Let the most powerful be the most vulnerable.

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        I don’t think that will be the moment that america starts caring about releasing toxic fumes by burning paint

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    Starlink shouldn’t exist. it’s unnecessary , we have better options… make internet a utility and force the companies we already gave millions to, to actually modernize infostructure and bring internet to undeserved locations that still have 56k

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      Running fiber to low density areas is expensive but there’s no way it can be as expensive as launching all those satellites.

      Even if it is, the ROI has got to be way worse for satellites.

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          Rural Japan, is like the suburbs here in the states. Japan is fucking tiny.

          We still should have fiber everywhere in the states. And it should be provided by the electric coops that most of our rural areas run off of, but suggesting that Japan’s rural areas are anything like the US’s rural areas is laughable.

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            Thank again, Japan is the size of California. This is rural Japan not a suberb. And even many of the actual suberbs in California don’t have fiber to the home.

            This is about monopolies running rampant and misuse of public money not about the technical feasibility.

            Edit: These companies literally bought back their own stock to inflate their market cap instead of building out the infrastructure we funded.

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              I’m not saying that the USA shouldn’t have fiber everywhere, it should be like water or electric, my point was suggesting that rural japan is even remotely close to rural US is a bit of a stretch.

              And cali is slightly larger than japan, not by much but it is, and that’s just one state.

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            I grew up in rural Ohio and spent time in rural TX as well for a brief period. As a kid, I walked about 20+ minutes to bail hay in my neighbor’s fields in the summer for cash. I am currently farming in rural Tohoku Japan.

            Certain things are similar and certain things are different. To call where I live a suburb is just wrong yet we, and those even more rural than us, have fibre. I looked at buying land on the side of a mountain before buying this place and, although I’d have to pay for the run from the nearest point, I could still get fiber. Being Japan, I of course had to apply by fax machine, but the infrastructure is there for most of the country, both urban and rural.

            Edit to add: we have multiple fiber companies as well, at least one of which being a fully private company.

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            Posting from a fiber connection in rural vietnam. Also have 6GB 5g/day for <7USD/mo

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            Rural Japan, is like the suburbs here in the states. Japan is fucking tiny.

            Doesn’t fucking matter when you have as much money as we do.

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        If you live somewhere that has electricity coming from the energy grid then by default should also have Internet coming to your house as well. By defining the internet as a utility and treating it like one you would get more funding to build out the network. Something similar happened with phone lines way back in the day if I’m not mistaken.

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    How is he allowed to remove the secret service protection from the former vice president?

    What?

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      The former VP actually only gets 6 months of protection by default. Beyond that it needs to be actively extended, which Trump didn’t do.

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        my understanding was that biden did extend it for a further year. trump actively cancelled that.

        it wasnt just him letting it lapse, it was a move of spite

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        To be more accurate, he actively cancelled an extension granted by a previous executive order.

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      There was an order in the previous administration to extend protection for extra time. This administration just cancelled the extension.

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    Day 1 should be to Fire everyone even remotely related to trump. Then take trumps entire cabinet to a CIA black site. Then start going after the treasonous media figures. Then day 2 you can start fixing things.

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      He said when they take the house. In that hypothetical, they would still be moderately impotent with regards to what you describe, they’d need 2/3 of Senate too.

      This is the most optimistic plausible scenario for 2027, not 2029.

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        The good news is that the Senate is vulnerable to flipping. 22 of the 35 seats up for election are currently held by Republicans, and only 13 by Democrats. Dems only need 4 seats to flip the Senate, and Senate races aren’t vulnerable to gerrymandering.

        The bad news is that this is the Senate class that was elected in 2020, so the Republicans up for election aren’t extremely vulnerable since they all survived a fairly blue election cycle.

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          Right, but a lot of that would require either POTUS or 2/3. They might be able to do some things, but almost certainly can’t remove from office or override vetos

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              Yes, they can do that. But not fire people in the executive branch, let alone do that CIA black site thing mentioned at the top of this thread.

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          That’s not in the cards in 2026 race, that office won’t be up for grabs until 2028… maybe

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    Could they even do any of that with just the House? They won’t do it anyway, but could they?

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      At this point it doesn’t even really matter, it’s just a question of whether anyone would step up to stop them. “The Rules” in general have already been well and truly trod upon and I’m not sure we make it out the other side of this without some restructuring of them.

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      Obviously with the Senate they can cut any budget/pass any law.

      On their own the house can cut funding eventually. Push comes to shove, the house needs to vote for spending. They either pass a budget with the cuts, or the government shuts down.

      There really isn’t a mechanism for the house that nationalize anything without the support of the Senate that I’m aware of. The house can call the vote day one to nationalize, but it’s symbolic without a legit path on the Senate

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    The current MAGA Republicans make neoconservatives look like angels. The neoconservatives are lesser evil, but it doesn’t exonerate them from the Bush-era warcrimes.

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      Isn’t the correct process to make a flippant post offering to buy the whole thing on twitter ?

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    I would!

    Rambling on Twitter makes money. And politicians have finally figured out they can get in on the rage influencer pie, too.

    It’s super effective.

    Ugh, I can’t wait for Twitter to enshittify so much it withers away.

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    You guys complain for months that democrats don’t fight back. But First Democrat that fights back against Trump, you guys tear them down and bury them. Nobody is worthy to be an ally, that’s why MAGA wrecked you. That’s why half you guys will stay home next election no matter who runs on the Democrat ticket. Last time you said you didn’t want the senile old man but the moment they switched to the educated black woman you guys were like “no not that!”

    MAGA unifies and the left splinters and lights among itself

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      1. This is a non-sequitur, the guy in the post is a republican supposedly
      2. A guy posting troll tweets while clearing homeless encampments is not “fighting trump”
      3. Active participants in genocide are not allowed to be allies, maga are happy to support genocide.
      4. If theres a fake primary or they annoint someone years before and expect voters to fall in line, youre right, nobody will vote for them
      5. Again, if you bait and switch the people, you dont hold a primary, and you wait until there’s no chance of having one to finally say “youre right, hes too old, here’s someone nobody asked for” who then proceeds to drop every popular position she ever publicly had, YOU DESERVE TO FUCKING LOSE.
      6. Democrats, the dnc, the party proper, are the ones refusing to support “democrats” who win elections, not voters. Zohran and the Minnesota guy are both barely left and the national party is basically funding their opposition.

      If you’re getting paid by that Brian Tyler Cohen darkmoney group I wouldn’t be surprised, they only hire the most shit tier libs.

      Why dont you confront your party leadership and hold them accountable for forcing trump back into office? You’d rather yell at principled voters, who made extremely clear what they absolutely would not accept for years in advance, than the party that chose to try winning the election purely on republicans voting for them.

      All I’m saying, you better be getting paid for this. Having these opinions for free would be very embarrassing. Congrats on the check tho, $250/mo can really make a difference.

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    I think a problem the Democratic Party is facing is that, today, few believe they will

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        That is not their problem, it is ours.

        Their problem is the multiple PR disasters which will probably lower campaign contributions.

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    Reissue all US currency and people are only able to change to the new real currency $100k a day over the course of a year, after that it all becomes void. And you need to actually go to the bank and sign a slip each time.