The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.
[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they’re masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.
At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.
The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.
Finally, some good wholesome news
Hole’some news indeed
I was wondering where this would happen first. TX makes sense. They have more ICE than any other state.
Shame this doesn’t happen more often.
I was surprised that the masked men weren’t law enforcement. Police hiding their faces because fascism is just standard procedure under President Epstein.
Police said if you’re ever unsure whether it is really the police outside your door, there are some signs to look for.
“Obviously, a police car with some sort of lights and sirens and a bullhorn where we’ll be announcing ourselves,” HPD Detective Kyle Stringer told Choi.
Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.
An interesting development
I love that I read your comment, then backed out to the main feed and the very next post is of a pig wearing what is effectively a ski mask
Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.
the very next post is of a pig wearing what is effectively a ski mask
The logical conclusion is that that is not a real officer.
Then somebody should be arresting them for impersonating an officer.
That’s what happened, right?
Unfortunately, I don’t think syllogisms are enforceable law.
Not with that attitude
What do you mean, it’s clearly a goverment officer, it says it right there on the ground!
Appropriate username
It’s an easy mistake - good guys wear balaclavas, criminals wear ski masks. Kind of like how the bad guy used to wear a black hat. /s
“Obviously, a police car with some sort of lights and sirens and a bullhorn where we’ll be announcing ourselves,”
They always announce themselves except when they don’t: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant
Lies. ACAB.
This is gaslighting at this point. We all see the pigs with masks. We’ve all seen plainclothes officers in undercover cars make traffic stops.
I’m reading it as the quoted police officer is telling us it’s ok to shoot the masked kidnapper-variety police.
It’s gonna happen eventually. People are on edge.
Not disagreeing with ACAB but this particular guy was speaking on behalf of the Houston PD, saying they don’t wear ski masks. The two guys who got shot could be from any number of organizations.
The ones in CT were using fucking Subaru Crosstreks for unmarked cars.
I guess “buy American” is less important than “sneak up on future brutality victims”.
In many states, cops drive cars
stolenconfiscated from suspects in drug-related arrests.
Breonna Taylor’s ghost would like a word.
Seriously, her boyfriend was arrested (but acquitted) for returning fire in their home when police had no lights, no sirens, and no bullhorn.
This officer’s advice does not apply anywhere that no-knock warrants can still be obtained.
lol, all that is bullshit. What a bunch of clowns.
Everyone is wrong sometimes
This has been happening for years, Apple even made a TV show about it.
Cops say they do no knocks and mask up for their own safety…
But this is America and people are even more on edge then ever. I honestly can’t believe more actual cops haven’t been shot by mistake yet.
Dollar Store Hitler and his American Gestapo
This is another problem with police hiding their identity, it makes it easier for bozos like this to plausibly claim to be cops.
Schrödinger’s cop. Every masked creep with a power complex is simultaneously a dangerous criminal you should shoot on sight for your own protection and a police officer with qualified immunity. The waveform collapses when you get tried for murder, if you win it was a criminal all along, but if you get the electric chair it was a cop.
lol this is so good
Just means more aggressive actions by cops to preemptively subdue any resistance. You’ll get a flashbang and tear gas launched into your backseat, dragged out and cuffed at a traffic stop.
“Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.”
It’s going to be very, very interesting to see how this one turns out!
Always a good idea to be aware of lethal force rules where you live:
In this case, Houston, Texas:
"The Role of the Castle Doctrine in Texas
The Castle Doctrine is a key element of Texas self-defense laws. This principle allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, to protect themselves in their homes, vehicles, or workplaces without a duty to retreat. Under Texas law, your “castle” is considered a place where you have a legal right to be, and force may be justified when:
Someone unlawfully enters or attempts to enter your home.
The intruder is committing or attempting to commit a violent act, such as robbery or assault.
You reasonably believe force is necessary to protect yourself or others.
There are some limitations to this principle. For example, the use of force is typically not justified if the intruder is retreating or if you initiated the altercation."
So, assuming the story is accurate, and remember, initial reports are almost always INACCURATE…
“At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.”
So, yeah, as soon as they shot through the door, Castle Doctrine is in play.
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So, yeah, as soon as they shot through the door, Castle Doctrine is in play.
Standard self defense law also covers this in every US state and most countries; if someone is shooting at you and there’s no way to quickly get to a place where they can’t hit you, it’s legal to kill them to make them stop.
And what you want to say (with an attorney present) is that you used necessary force to eliminate the threat.
I overheard a cop at the hospital I work at kinda laughing about that: apparently it’s super common for people to plead the 5th, then proceed to run their mouth and incriminate themselves.
So, I fucking love that video for how persistent it is about ‘but then the cop keeps asking you questions’ ‘but then they bring you to the station’ and regardless of how far into the process it gets, shut the fuck up.
Funny presentation, but rock solid advice that people really do struggle with.
Some cops actually wear ski mask-type stuff like that when they do sting operations. Seen it myself a few times.
I want to be clear that the ski mask cops I have seen actually had badges or uniforms or some kind of identification on their person.
Maybe this could be a warning sign to those cops that they shouldn’t do that, or they might be shot.
Oh, who am I kidding. That just means cops in ski masks will shoot first more often.
Yeah, they want to turn the temperature up. If they can just start shooting brown people on sight, it’d make everything easier.
ICE agents wear masks more often than not, from what I can tell.
Know your rights!
In reality, if the masked intruder you shoot happens to be a cop, then Castle Doctrine is irrelevant. You’re now a cop murderer. They’ll figure out some legal or extra-legal way to see you behind bars or dead.
Not 100% true. Though I admit it’s rare, but in Texas a man was acquitted after killing a police officer trying to break into his house. Castle-Law absolutely came into play there.
This is the most recent I can find, but it’s happened several times in the past as well. It should happen more often, but unfortunately the defender rarely survives.
The story you linked isn’t about a police officer trying to break into a man’s house. It’s about a road rage incident.
Castle-Law applies to being in your car as well. But yea, the story I linked is similar, but not the one I was thinking about. It’s very hard to find specific news stores these days unfortunately. :/
Howl’s moving castle?
I feel the headline should have noted that he shot in response to them shooting through his goddamn door first.
Journalistic reflex; cops are always innocent.
BREONNA TAYLOR, member her? Just a raid gone wrong
There have been do many stories of police botched a raid and killed people exercising their 2d Amendment rights in non-threatening ways. Typically the 2A nuts still rally around the cops.
Quote "Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks. "
So law enforcement just went on record saying ICE agents with masks are not actually law enforcement.
this quote should form the basis of any defense arguments for future ICE shootings
I support this and agree.
I feel like if someone dressed up as ice and joined in a raid only to cause internal chaos could deeply hinder the operations of ICE as they all become suspicious of each other and lose trust in their team.
It’s so badly organised and chaotic anyway they wouldn’t even notice
Fair point. My girlfriend is Irish and compared them to the black and tans.
They wear neck gaiters.
HPD Detective Kyle Stringer told Choi… that real officers do not wear ski masks.
🤔
Detective Stringer doesn’t watch the news.
Good for the homeowner. Any “law enforcement officer” who hide their faces and wont show ID are probably acting criminally and they should not be tolerated by society.
ICE wear masks, and no-knock warrants are a thing.
Kudos to the home owner for being vigilant and shooting BACK once they opened fire
Probably realised they weren’t real police because they knocked rather than just kicked his door in and shot his dog.
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Hope the homeowner is acquitted of any wrongdoing or damages in court.
KHOU 11’s Michelle Choi spoke with a neighbor, who said they heard a total of 22 gunshots.
The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.
I…who can count that many gunshots?
Texans
You sure? There’s conflicting eyewitnesses accounts of how many shots were fired at JFK. The Warren Commission settled on three, and whatever it actually was, it couldn’t have been that much more.
Well, if you have a Ring camera, you could playback the video.
Possible. If that’s the source, then the reporter didn’t report it correctly.
Honestly, you start counting as soon as you hear the first one. Glock is what, 14+1? Big .357 only holds 6, some 38 special revolvers hold 7. Counting can save your life.
Depends on which Glock, whether it’s fitted with an extended mag or not. Count all you want, if the other person is using a semi auto pistol, you can’t know how many rounds they have loaded, and changing to a fresh magazine takes almost no time.
Well, don’t count then. IDGAF
So what you’re saying is… he did think they were cops.
