• QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
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    Cmon at least get the story right. Lot’s daughters got him drunk on wine and raped HIM

    Edit: Don’t remember him being a King either

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      came here to point this out

      Genesis 19:30-38:

      30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”

      33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

      34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

      36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[a]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[b]; he is the father of the Ammonites[c] of today.

      so yeah, not a king, and he was raped (not the rapist)

      though he did offer his two daughters up to be raped to protect his guests (if that seems strange, the story is ultimately about the importance of hospitality, since back then, hospitality was more life or death):

      Genesis 19:3-8:

      3 But [Lot] insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

      6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

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      People who use GPT4o as an “upscaler” by feeding images to it with the “clean up the image” prompt are a plague to the internet…

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    Whoa, wrong way round! The daughters got him drunk on purpose so they could rape him and have his kids.

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      And why is he “King” Lot in this? I actually can’t tell if this is 7D gigabrain satire or if this comes from some loose recollection of hearing a Bible story 20 years ago.

      Edit: also, the image looks GPT-generated. What the fuck is up with the boy’s Polnareff-ass head, why is his left leg melting, and how is the dad’s left arm wrapping around him?

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        So in the story where they’re hanging out in the cave, his daughters thought they were the last people on earth and had an “obligation”

        If you think this gives Lot a free pass, though, remember earlier, when the strangers (apparently angels,) were hiding in his place and the sodomites came out, he offered his own daughters to get raped instead.

        Regardless, this entire affair is something that never happened.

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          The part with the crowd is meant to depict him as dedicated to hospitality, as was the duty of a host.

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            and he bribed the crowd to go away by offering up his daughters for a massive train.

            Think they consented to that? Like, Okay. he’s a good host. He chose to be a good host at the cost of protecting his own daughters.

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              Well, yes, back then, that was seen as a virtue. The idea was that he, as a good host, was willing to bear the cost of ensuring his guest’s well-being.

              Keep in mind, this is the same setting where a farher is told to kill his son, and it’s treated as a sacrifice by the father. The patriarch is the only one who fully counts as a person.

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                The realization that much of the bible was written by and for people who kept other people as property, considered all women and children to be property by default, and was itself - at least partially - an attempt to justify this practice through religious sophistry is what led me to become an atheist when I was growing up. I started reading the bible because I was confused and wanted moral clarity, but it turned me off of Christianity entirely, even though I do still hold some fondness for the story of Jesus.

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      LOL, I was gonna say! King James Version for the purists:

      32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

      33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

      34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

      35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

      36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

      And they started two major lines! Good one girls!

      Somehow, this bit was left out of my Sunday school instruction. No idea why.

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    This is so perfect.

    I’m from a conservative white american family, and some of the odd-sounding ones are still perfect for illustrating the issue in that culture where different people are not just different, they are bad and scary until proven otherwise.

    Obviously things like hate, bigotry, and other-ing are a problem for the entire human race. I’m just thinking of the particular flavor that you get with dumb trumpers.

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        In case people don’t believe this, it’s a real thing. Idiots aren’t wiping their asses because they legitimately think that touching your own ass is gay. And these people are allowed to just walk around freely in the world, no death penalty or anything.

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          Finding out that eating pussy, washing your hands or ass are all gay helped me come to terms with being a trans lesbian

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      Legit some men think if you even wipe (!!!) your ass, then you’re signaling to gay men you’re available for sex. Well, at least this can lead to some Darwin awards (normal fecal bacteria can be somewhat nasty, but bacteria in poop that is not fresh is extremely bad).

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        That’s so nasty I would have found it hard to believe if I wasn’t aware of just how outrageously homophobic some people can be.

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    Underage girls can’t concent. The story sounded more like “God” influenced/controlled those girls to do that. No winners in the story.

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    Public sunscreen stations? It’s about time! If there’s anything I learned from the '90s it’s that everyone should wear sunscreen.

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      Despite being a white guy, I hardly ever wear it. If I’m going to the beach and catching reflections off the water and sand all day? Yeah. Otherwise I can hardly tan, let alone get burned. My little kids are very pale, takes 'em all day to catch a slight burn. Weird.

      Despite smoking for 20+ years, I’m fairly wrinkle free at 54! I should look like a Shar Pei. Weird.