• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
    163·
    5 days ago

    The Chinese aren’t ahead of the curb here, they are significantly behind. Flavored cigs got banned in most countries many years ago because they did too good a job. I expect the same thing will happen in China soon.

    • Kirp123@lemmy.world
      113·
      5 days ago

      One of the reasons they were banned was also because it made them more attractive to children and teenagers. That’s also one of the reasons a lot of places don’t allow fancy designs on cigarette packs and it forces them to show those gruesome pictures of throat cancer and stuff.

        • TAG@lemmy.world
          4·
          4 days ago

          I thought that the US banned flavored vapes. If your home country has not, encourage politicians to ban vapes altogether.

          Edit: In retrospect, I should let the vape addicts be.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
      20·
      4 days ago

      Except cigarettes are a state-run monopoly over there.

      The main reason things are going so slowly is that they can’t bring themselves to stop making so much money.

      The same institution that’s supposed to promote the facts about the health-risks of smoking is the one making stupid amounts of money making and selling it.

      If they ever stop, it’ll be because they transition to other nicotine products, or shift to exporting the product to developing countries (which they already are).

    • wdx@feddit.org
      9·
      4 days ago

      unlikely. Basically all cigarettes are produced by CNTC or one of their subsidiaries.

      CNTC is owned by the state and rakes in a lot of money for the government.

      • zikzak025@lemmy.world
        12·
        4 days ago

        There’s a profit ceiling, though. And a lot of countries are finding out that the larger cost of cigarette usage is borne by the healthcare systems that need to spend a disproportionate volume of resources to manage the various health complications caused by a lifetime of smoking.

      • sangeteria@lemmy.ml
        2·
        4 days ago

        The liquor stores in Canada are primarily monopolize by the provincial governments, which is for the best, but it does have its obvious negative externalities lol. I always make an effort to go to a govt store over a private corp if I can

  • gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
    17·
    4 days ago

    lots of food products taste boring in the west because

    • we’ve been told that stuff that tastes good is probably full of additives and therefore bad for your health (think of all the chemicals!)
    • and because of the same christian mindset that got us the cornflakes:

    Cereal would create fortunes and create multinational companies that we still know today. But Dr. John Harvey Kellogg , the inventor of corn flakes, did not care about profits. For him, cereal was not just a health food because it would improve Americans digestion. He believed a diet centered on bland foods like cereal would lead Americans away from sin. One very specific sin: masturbation.

    • epicstove@lemmy.caEnglish
      7·
      4 days ago

      Thank god my regular unflavoured cigarette don’t have any dangerous chemicals!

    • Madison420@lemmy.world
      4·
      4 days ago

      Watch the road to wellness, it’s about Kellogg and it’s fantastic. Matthew Brodrick gets jerked off by a machine and gets a bunch of yogurt jammed in his butthole and at some point corn flakes come up. You know, proper cinema of a bygone age long past.

    • frog@feddit.uk
      36·
      5 days ago

      It is a good thing. I hate cigarettes and this post made me curious what other flavors China has.

    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
      17·
      5 days ago

      I remember rumours at school that the strawberry flavour could get you instant addicted.

      I doubt that is true, but I considered it a positive that people were worried about it.

      Then the modern vape cartridge got invented and just like that the youth is back to paying companies to inhale poison.

      • yermaw@sh.itjust.works
        11·
        5 days ago

        They were kinda right. Any cigarette is pretty much instant addicted if you smoke it all. The flavour just ensures youre more likely to do it. A lot of people take one or two puffs, cough their lungs out and say “sweet jesus thats fucking gross get that away from me”. The ones who make it the full smoke usually are in for life.

        • aim_at_me@lemmy.nzEnglish
          2·
          5 days ago

          I know this to be mostly true. But I’ve probably smoked about 20 cigarettes in my life. I had one about 3 months ago. And before that it was over a year. So some people can smoke, and not get addicted. I suspect I don’t have what ever gene makes you addicted to nicotine.

    • Ioughttamow@fedia.io
      6·
      5 days ago

      Yeah, I started with clove cigarettes. Wish I had never started, but at least I’m well and truly done with smoking

  • grahamja@reddthat.com
    11·
    4 days ago

    In Iraq rhey have cigs with two different flavor capsules in the filter, it was a novelty. I do remember carrying crushes at bars, in case you met someone who liked menthols. I’m glad I quit, but it was fun at the time.

    • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      4 days ago

      I don’t miss the smoking so much. I miss the social aspects. I met so many people just by smoking outside occasionally. Didn’t even have to do anything. Just stand there and stuff starts happening around you.

    • tio_bira@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      3·
      4 days ago

      They aren’t that new, on Brazil, you just pop a small bubble to get it mentol flavored, i used to sold a lot of those not so long ago

  • Herbal Gamer@sh.itjust.works
    19·
    5 days ago

    So theres this american dude on youtube who cycles through China and the way he connects to locals is usually by offering cigarettes. Very fun videos; “Bicycling trough China, one cigarette at a time” was the first I think I saw.

  • NathanRanch@lemmy.zip
    9·
    5 days ago

    I don’t like smoking. I think I ought to be free to decide that for myself. I can’t, or by proxy, make that determination for anyone else - even though I don’t think they should be smoking if they choose to.

    If it didn’t make so much money, kids wouldn’t be vaping. It’s an integral part of the American performance that, “nothing we can do about it”, is just what everone sees, and therefore thinks. We could prosecute parents for letting their kids have them, prosecute the gas stations for peddling it, prosecute the companies making them cheap and disposable. All of that would turn off the faucet on a billion dollar industry though, so it becomes part of our performance in one way or another. We have fundamentally bet that our world is a better place with smoking children in it, than without. That is what Capitalism does, that is how it does it. That is why it needs to be controlled like a rabid dog on a leash.

    • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.worksOP
      5·
      5 days ago

      I HATE that THC disposables are legal. I’ve had 2 of them and keep them in a little jar in case they ever randomly choose to catch fire

      also not to mention how horrible they are for you. I only used them when I was a minor and couldn’t get weed by myself. (admittedly I am the issue 😅)

      There’s not enough education that you can enjoy weed without risking lung cancer by using a dry herb vaporizer and keeping it at ~380°F (depends on the strain tho) and it doesn’t make you cough up a lung every time you take a blinker!! also flower is cheaper than carts too!! (though the device is a bit of an investment at $200).

      it’s fucking great and I’m tired of getting “I don’t care about my body” from ppl any time I recommend it because I love my friends and want them to understand what they’re actually doing!!!

      also it has a pocket bong attachment. Bitches love the pocket bong.

      edit: also I forgot to mention you can bake the burnt flower in brownies or something and get a BONUS high from the same flower. I don’t understand why normal bowls are used at all tbh, they’re so wasteful

      edit 2: also I only talk about weed and not nicotine because I am NOT responsible enough to expose myself to chemically addictive drugs

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 days ago

        I’ve got bad lungs and a dry herb vape was a game changer. I miss the taste of burning flower, but it’s not bad and it feels so much less rough. I’m off pot at the moment, but when I’m back to doing it, dry herb + edibles all the way.

        And yeah fuck disposables.