Welp…
I just want to remind anyone thinking that this is a good thing because it will siphon off voters from the Republican Party - Elon Musk is only doing this because Trump cut the EV mandate from the Big Bullshit Bill and didn’t appoint his guy to NASA. No matter what he says about spending or debt ceilings, he doesn’t care about any of it and was in the loop the entire time that legislation was being crafted. He’s still only in this for himself, just as he was when he gleefully threw a Nazi salute on stage thinking he just got everything he could ever want when he bought the president his office.
He can be in it for himself, and it can still be a good thing for us
Sure, that’s fine, I just don’t want people to lose sight of the bigger picture here. Musk is not an altruist. He’s not the good guy all of a sudden. He didn’t grow a conscience after falling out with Trump.
If this political party ever gets off the ground, which it probably won’t, Musk will always have a controlling interest in it. He will never ever let the party move away from enabling and enacting his agenda, and his alone. He doesn’t give a single shit or a wipe about helping Americans. He wants to protect his fortune by taking control of the government apparatus to end regulations or investigations that impede the companies he is in charge of. That’s it.
I certainly hope that Democrats will see this for the nakedly transparent political maneuver that it is, and not get swept up in the idea of a 3rd party founded and controlled by a billionaire will bring any kind of meaningful change to the system. And I believe they will - we rejected Bloomberg and Steyer in 2020 because they were out-of-touch billionaires who tried to buy their way into the party, and I think that Democrats are not so easily fooled by the obvious bad faith rich cunts who try to buy their way into the public zeitgeist. I just worry that people will see this move by Musk as “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” and shift closer to his values as a result. He might be the enemy of your enemy, but he’s still an an enemy as far as I’m concerned.
This isn’t what anyone is celebrating.
They don’t think for a second that Musk will do anything positive.
What they’re hoping for is republicans to split somewhere near the middle, some in support of MAGAts and some in support of Musk, which could lead to more people voting for a democrat than a republican. Votes that would have gone toward a MAGAt will go to Musk. That is the prayer.
As much as I fucking hate Musk, he does understand two things:
- EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support
- Funneling money from the government to billionaires is the worst thing for an economy
What I find fucking mind-blowing is that this idiot is selling a shoddy EV and solar product at premium costs to other idiots, but very much aligned with Democrats on the two points above. Not only did he back the wrong horse, he straight up accidentally got on the wrong horse, and rode it threw towns away from where he was living very comfortably.
Now this fucking moron needs to invent new ways to make Tesla appealing to the “normies” because nobody is buying his bullshit stalling tactics or premium pricing for sub-par products.
I’ve got my popcorn ready, but the siphoning of votes away from Trump is just the butter on top.
I dont see how you can draw that conclusion for item 2. He claims to care about the deficit, not funelling money to billionaires. Belive me, he would have you living under a bridge eating gruel before he would touch anything that affects his wealth.
Not sure I agree with point #2 - I’d be willing to bet he would love to funnel some of that sweet tax money into his own pocket, but he doesn’t want it in the form of tax breaks for income earners, he wants it in the form of EV subsidies for Tesla, which Trump denied him by cutting the EV tax incentive from the spending bill. I don’t think he even acknowledges that tax breaks for billionaires are bad for the economy, just that the big bullshit bill is bad for him specifically.
On everything else, though, I agree wholeheartedly. His brand is toxic now, and without being able to sell a sub-par product at dirt-cheap prices, he’s going to get a heavy dose of reality when consumers reject his rolling coffins in favor of cheaper alternatives.
If course you don’t. That’s why you side with Trump. The fact that “trickle down economics” has been disproven time and time again means nothing to you folks.
Huh? Did you reply to the wrong person? Because I don’t side with Trump. Check my comment history.
What a stupid name for it
The neo-Nazi saluting bastard wants a political party? F-him and strip him of US citizenship for illegally working in the USA.
If anyone has a chance to create another party. AOC and Mamdani.
Has he filed any paperwork? Gathered any signatures?
Didn’t think so. It’s just typical Elmo Skum: hurricane force hot air scented with billionaire quantities of bovine effluvia.
A white South African dude created the American Party
ffs did somebody step on a bug in 2015 and change the whole timeline?
Now do another 10 or 20 parties more and maybe america could finally become a democratic country.
Need a weaker executive branch too
What could go wrong?
I fail to see how splitting up the fascists is anything but a good thing. Let them fight.
Yeah, this seems like it may actually be some good news in this endless sea of shit we’ve been in. But the chances of it actually going anywhere are pretty slim.
I’m sure Tesla shareholders are happy to hear he’s picked up another side project.
Don’t you remember? He’s a super genius!
“America Party”
Americans really are the ultimate parody of themselves. Have fun with your civil war.
The “America Party”, started by a Nazi African. What a wild thing.
splitting the nazi vote
Yeah FR this is literally the best thing that could have happened for the USA simply because of spoiler effect.
Wow this might just turn Elon Musk into a millionaire.
I’ll just point out the risk of what I’ll call “Joe Roganing” here. Elon pretends he hates both parties while there’s no election coming up. Then when the election arrives he “makes up his mind” and endorses Republicans. This allows him to 1) attract people fed up with both parties just to hand them to Republicans, and 2) have a credible that that forces Republicans to do his bidding.
I’m not sure if I want this to fail or succeed.
Yeah…
At best, it splits the MAGAt vote, making Dems a clear winner.
At worst, it takes some GenZ dipshit votes away from Dems and causes chaos.
If it splits the republican party and removes the old white billionaires from the dems than I’m 100% for it.
I want it to split republicans and have both of them spectacularly fail elections.
Success means a split of the Republicans, because the vast majority of Dems aren’t going to follow Elon after these last few months.
I think it already has.
I want this to succeed wildly.
Is it splits the Republican vote, I’m all for it
The funniest thing about stuff like this is that there are already a hundred political parties in the US. Every time someone says “we need a third party,” it reminds me of that xkcd comic about standards and protocols.
When people say that they want a third part I doubt they mean it literally, as in they believe there are literally only two parties, but rather I suspect they mean that they want a third party which is large and influencial.
Sort of. They usually mean it literally, but it’s rooted in the misunderstanding of the political system that most folks have. And I don’t blame them for this, I just find the grandiosity amusing.
The America Party run by a South African.
Popcorn is not enough for this country.
I did nazi that coming.
