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  • Even quoting the article, the article is not making a valid argument. TheTelegraph saying that Hamas are 13 year old kids does not make it a useable argument in a discussion.

    I have no idea what the actual numbers are. Because the previous time this stunt was pulled it was a hoax I do not feel like putting in the effort to dig through. Instead I will put slightly more effort than The Telegraph into this comment and defer the question to AI

    The Palestinian Ministry of Health released a comprehensive list of identified casualties as of March 22, 2025, totaling 50,021 deaths. This figure comes from a 1,516-page document published after two months of body collection during a ceasefire that began in January 2025. The demographic breakdown of these identified fatalities is as follows: Children (under 18): 15,613 (31%)

    Women: 8,304 (17%)

    Elderly: 3,839 (8%)

    Men: 22,265 (45%)

    https://www.ochaopt.org/content/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-11-march-2025

    As of April 3, 2025, there have been no widely documented or specific reports explicitly stating that certain identified bodies were missing from the Palestinian Ministry of Health’s (MoH) updated casualty list released on March 22, 2025, which included 50,021 identified deaths. However, the context of the MoH’s reporting process and the challenges in Gaza suggest potential discrepancies that could lead to such concerns. Let’s explore this based on available information and the inherent complexities of the situation. The MoH’s March 22 list was a significant update, compiled after two months of body recovery during a ceasefire that began in January 2025. This list, spanning 1,516 pages, aimed to provide a comprehensive record of identified fatalities from October 7, 2023, to March 22, 2025. It was built from hospital records, morgue data, and family submissions verified by medics and police, with efforts to restore a central database from Shifa Hospital playing a key role. However, the MoH has acknowledged that its totals—exceeding 50,000 by late March—do not include an estimated 10,000 bodies still under rubble, of which only a few dozen were recovered during the ceasefire. This gap alone indicates that not all deaths, identified or otherwise, are fully accounted for in the published list.

    Also

    HonestReporting, an Israeli media advocacy group founded in 2000, explicitly states its mission as combating “ideological prejudice in journalism and the media, as it impacts Israel.” Its focus is on monitoring and challenging perceived anti-Israel bias in news coverage, which inherently positions it as a pro-Israel organization. This is reflected in its activities, such as analyzing media for inaccuracies or bias against Israel, providing tools to advocate for Israel, and pressuring outlets for corrections when coverage is deemed unfair to Israeli perspectives.


  • Hamas does not use 13 year olds as soldiers. This makes absolutely no sense and your comment is complete lie. It is clear you are here to spread an agenda and are not arguing in any good faith.

    The Hamas list also did not change. The person from New York just made up bullshit by comparing different lists to eachother and pretending they were the same.

    A google search shows they are likely using the same lie as the previous time as reports from today cite the same misinformation Zionist think tank.



  • This is rather old Hasbara.

    At one point Hamas released the list of fully identified Palestinian blunt trauma (bombed or shot) victims.

    This means if a Palestinian child comes in without anyone knowing who it is, the blunt trauma child victim count goes +1 but the list of identified victims does not.

    The reason that the official Hamas count is a heavy undercount is because it does not count victims of disease and starvation caused by Israel starving the Gaza strip.