Glad to know I’m in the clear with my little 40%. Or is my mental so disordered that its come full circle back to an actual keyboard?
I have a full-sized and a 96%. I don’t know how people live without a numpad. Even my laptop has a numpad. I don’t do excel shit. But at work I have to enter alot of phone and CC numbers. At home I use the numpad for rating photos when sorting and importing them.
I don’t know how people live without a numpad
Simple, they don’t need to do all those specific things you use yours for!
Yeah 96% is great for me. I work in commercial credit analysis and I’m constantly typing numbers (account numbers/financial information/etc) so not having a number pad would suck. I work from home like 75% of the time and my work space is shared with my personal computing space. I have 1 keyboard that’s Bluetooth so I can swap between my personal desktop, personal laptop, and my work laptop. Same with my mouse. Sometimes I do think about getting a smaller keyboard and adding a separate numpad that can tuck out of the way when I’m not working as I don’t use it much for personal computing.
The 96% actually looks reasonable
sorry but I agree. numpad masterrace. say no to degenerate keyboards.
I’m gonna catch some heat…. But I gotta speak my truth - this is all I need. I game, I program, I have 2 function keys that change the layout and provide access to any keys not physically present.
You do you man. We all got different hands and preferences and physical dimensions, as well as different usable desk space. It’s silly to draw lines in the sand about peripherals. Personally, I like my giant gaming keyboard with macro keys and whatnot. I program the extra keys to do things as needed. But I wouldn’t force that on anyone who wants a smaller form factor. Hell now we can even get picky on how much actuation force, key travel, and sound of key press. A keyboard for every preference!
I kind of wish Duolingo would create a trainer that helps you practice shortcuts and hot keys. They never seem to stick in my brain asides from copy/paste, new tab, change focus.
If I could I would have two tiers and pedals like an organ master
I love this meme, but I feel like including TKL in the circle would be a little more fitting. I know I’m a little biased for being a TKL user, but they really aren’t that esoteric. Every key is where you expect it. It just doesn’t have a numpad.
Calling a 96% a mental disorder says more about you, OP than a friggin keyboard.
While I love my full-sized keyboard, respectfully - who cares. The whole idea of a PC is the freedom to use whatever you want.
Keyboards, controllers, speech to text, a wii-mote, literal bananas/bread, eye/blink trackers, whatever suits you best. Insisting there’s a best device for everyone doesn’t change people’s minds and just leads to hostility when we should be glad more people are using the device that makes them happy. One day you might be one of them when your circumstances or preferences change.
I’ve been trying a 75% tenkeyless but I do miss the number block haha. I really want to switch to a split ergo though, but it’s a bit of investment to learn and configure.
I spent 30 years thinking someday I’d start using the number pad and then finally gave up. I like having the typing part centered more.
Exactly. For me it’s closer to 40 years and I don’t think I ever used the number pad more than ten times. Tenkeyless is just better, unless you’re an accountant.
Do you people never do any actual work on your computers?
I have body parts that are less important to me than my numpad.
We just don’t work as accountants ;-).
Or programming. Or sysadmins. Or sales orders. Or order picking. Or…
You need to type a number quickly?
You need a keypad.
The end.
I was a Unix sysadmin for years and never once used the num pad. I’m in sales now for 25 years and still don’t use it. I mean, it’s always been a goal of mine but I just never think of it when it’s time to use it, and it’s slower for me to use it than not use it. And I don’t enter enough numbers to get enough practice to be good at it.
I recently got a split keyboard and technically I have a numpad layer. I have never used it
The number pad only ever became relevant to me after decades when I began playing video games that have more keybindings than I have brain cells. Caves Of Qud makes use of basically the the whole number pad just to manually move in 8 different directions.
Tkl/80 is my preferred size
I’m a full TKL man myself. I don’t mind the space, just don’t like using space for stuff I never use.
100% or bust!
Get a larger desk. No way I’m typing numbers not on a keypad
Over here loving my 60%. It’s all about modifier keys y’all. That 60% actually has all the keys your 130% and more all within reach.
Ya these dudes are high maintenance needing all those bullshit keys tbh and I like not having my arms doing the splits all day with giant keyboards
I use a Lily58 for work, and it’s excellent. Obviously mine looks much different than the ones on this product page, but it’s this layout.
I like the idea of a split keyboard, but looking up against the getting used to it. Did it take you long and do you still type as fast on regular keyboards or did you ‘unlearn’ that?
I’ve always been a good touch typer, so the transition for me wasn’t too bad. I also use the Dvorak layout as my default since QWERTY is dogshit (though I can still use QWERTY if needed.)
On my desk actually I have a full sized (MX Keys) keyboard and my split keyboard, and I use them both all the time because I have a couple of computers I’m using at once so it’s easier.
The biggest hurdle is just setting up the “layers” on a smaller keyboard like this. I have a layer for arrow keys, and one for a 10-key and function keys, etc. The world is your oyster, really, and that much choice is a little overwhelming at first. We’ve all been told for our whole lives that keyboards have to be a certain way, so when you get free rein to do what you want it’s…a lot.
But now I don’t even think about it. It’s one of those things where if you asked me how to get to the arrow keys I’d have to think about it for a second, BUT it’s so engrained in my muscle memory I use them all the time all day for work without a hitch. If that makes sense.
I’d say I’m about the same speed for typing on this versus my other keyboards. But the Lily IS much more comfortable than any standard keyboard, that’s for sure.
Thanks
Split column staggered is how keyboards designed for human hands should be, I don’t understand how most manufacturers are still pushing a keyboard designed for mechanical typewriters, that needed the row stagger for the mechanical linkages under every key. I’m I’m in between jobs right now but I’ll buy a split keyboard as my next keyboard soon
No home/end keys?
you can put them behind a momentary/toggle layer.
layers can change the behavior of the whole keyboard while active. super powerful, ill never go back.
Yep, 100%.
I have arrow keys, Home/End/etc., function keys, and a 10-key set up on different layers.
Used full sized all my life, went TKL a month ago and love it, probably never go back to full size. I barely use the numpad on my personal pc anyways.
Fuck all the gatekeeping, choose whichever you like.
