• underscores@lemmy.zip
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      Conspiracy theorists on the far fringe are all about knowing more than you, being smarter than you for noticing the obvious when you can’t.

      Them saying “pay attention” doesn’t mean “there’s something here that you are missing”. It means “I am projecting that I know more than you”. This is why they don’t elaborate.

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      It’s ‘think for your self’. Its a command, an open ended command.

      Which they say with authority, because they fashion themselves as thought leaders (cough cult leaders cough) and have literally delusional levels of self confidence and ego.

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      She’s stupid, so don’t worry about it. Or she’s saying ‘pay attention’ as she’s well versed in people drifting off when she speaks.

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      A lot of conspiracy narrative is just pointing out things that seem odd and that’s enough evidence, you don’t need a conclusion

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      Probably something along the lines of how the reptilians live in underwatwr cities thus landing in the ocean makes it easier for them to swap out astronauts.

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        It’s because the ocean doesn’t exist.

        <They> say that the astronauts landed in the ocean because they don’t want us to realise that there is no ocean. NASA landed on the moon and faked the “”””””””splashdown“””””””” (which was filmed by Kevin Reynolds at a soundstage on Specific Boulevard) just to keep people from realising THE TRUTH…!!!.!!.!!!.!!!

        Pay attention.

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    Also

    We did land on land

    For like forty years we did that exclusively

    It’s called the Space Shuttle and it’s pretty cool

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      Ignoring that the Soyuz is a more traditional capsule that does land on land, with timed rockets to slow their descent just before impact.

      Let’s just say landing on water is better, based on the medical injuries different astronauts have suffered riding home on the Soyuz. Several American astronauts have experienced bruising and joint/back pain from the hard “bone-jarring” landing.

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        That’s true. Honestly I remember being a kid, learning about the Soyuz recovery system and being shocked. A 20mph collision with the ground (without the braking SRs, 5mph with them) doesn’t sound like much, but it can still ring your bell pretty good.

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        True.

        While the USSR has a history of ignoring human safety, I suspect a large factor for landing on, well, land is the fact they had very few ports open year-round, unlike the US

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          Another commenter said that capsules are primarily designed for their abort landings. The US launches crewed missions from Florida, so the abort landing options are mostly in the Atlantic (on water landing). Russia launches from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, so their abort landing options are mostly over Northern Asia (on land landing)

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            Yeah, I saw that comment after writing this one and I agree that that’s moreblikely then mine. That being said, I think my previous comment is at least a tertiary benefit, so I’ll leave it up

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    No, no she’s on to something. If they don’t touch down on land why is it called a landing and not a sea-ing.

    Checkmate atheists

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      Because sea-ing is believing, and they know that we should only WANT to believe, but not actually believe.

  • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I recently left a job where my coworker was the absolute dumbest motherfucker I have ever met, but at least he was willing to listen to people with differing opinions. I think I managed to pull him a little left, at the very least he started out going “the people in charge generally know what is best for us even if they sometimes dip into things themselves” and ended with “fuck ice, they’re fascists acting exactly like the nazis did and the shitbags in charge are enabling them at every turn, the whole system needs reset” which is a pretty big leap, IMO.

    One thing I couldn’t budge him on was the moon landing. It doesn’t matter that I have assisted in a laser range-finding experiment using the retro reflectors left on the moon, thus confirming to myself that we HAVE been there.

    It didn’t matter how much I explained the Apollo missions, how much I explained why things behave in space the way they do, how much I explained why NASA essentially hd to rebuild a moon mission from the ground up, or any number of things. He still firmly believed it was all bullshit and we never went there.

    I would always end the conversation about space stuff with “the biggest reason to me is that the USSR never came out and said ‘this is fake, here’s proof they faked the landing’ and basically gave up not long afterward, and they clearly had spies and intelligence capable of infiltrating NASA systems and obtaining classified information, just look at the Russian space shuttle. If they knew we faked it, they would have every reason in the world to embarss us by revealing our lies to the world” and he would always agree on that point. Still fake to him though

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      Space deniers are the bottom of the fucking barrel as far as I’m concerned. I don’t know what it is about them, or how they got so fucking stupid, but there appears to be no limit to their ignorance.

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    What I never understood is why the unloading process is so needlessly complicated. After splash down, why not attach a cable and hoist the capsule onto a ship for unloading?

    Instead, it’s always this long spectacle of multiple back-and-forth boat trips, inflation and attachment of rafts and ‘porches’, and several helicoptor trips to a ship.

    Just build a recovery ship that can park right over the capsule and hoist it on deck.

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      I think the money required to “just build a recovery ship” is way too high to justify it as an alternative to methods that already work.

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    It’s called splashdown for a reason. I guess on land it could still be a splashdown?

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      It’s obviously because they are all a bunch of woke snowflakes who want to make us all gay! Wake up, sheeple!

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    Astronaut: Oh crap, was blue water or land? Screw it, it’s land…oh noooooooo!!! Mr. Dolphin watch out!!!