It’s nice to get confirmation, though I really can’t believe it had to be said. Sign of the times, I guess.
If they release one with a headphone jack I’m 100% sold.
Please make this the industry expected.
Will banking apps and NFC pay finally work?
Doesn’t that depend on google play services? If so, “probably not, but then again it works currently if you install play services on a separate user profile (or on your main, defeating the purpose of grapheneOS to begin with but more power to you).”
Tell google/banks to stop requiring the spyware, they won’t but at least it’s better then telling the secure OS to install just a little spyware just so you don’t need to carry a wallet.
I would still need to be able to use my banking app to check my balance. That’s more than just needing “to carry a wallet.” That’s the difference of more than $450 in mistakes as that’s what happened when i didn’t get a live-update to my account prior to the advent of smartphone banking apps. Fuck 5/3. -a dumpster-fire of a banking organization if i’ve ever seen one.
I would still need to be able to use my banking app to check my balance.
cant you use a web browser for that ltask ? All my banks let me log in via a web browser fir that at least.
Wow! okay, i leaned something new today.
edit I am surprised I never thought of that.
graphene still sandboxes gplay, even if you use the two profiles for work and home
I think he was saying that installing it on your main user account would be the way that’s pointless.
and i’m saying it’s still sandboxed on the main account leaving a second profile still available for work
I guess I’m confused on how t being sandboxed would stop it from doing it’s tracking thing
it has MUCH less access to your phone on GrapheneOS than stock android and can even be limited to only contexts where its required.
plus Graphene still blocks a lot of the other attack vectors that corporations use to track you like Dynamic Code Loading and Memory Tagging. to say installing google play services to your main profile defeats the purpose of GrapheneOS is to ignore like 80% of what GrapheneOS does and how it installs google play services
It gives you more control over when and what Google can do on the device. If you run Google software with network access you have to assume they can track you, but having it sandboxed minimizes what it can do while running and gives you more control over what it does (e.g. you can deny it network access entirely whenever you want).
It’ll still try, it just wouldn’t have root access. It would just depend on what you allow it access to.
Does anyone know when such devices are expected to hit the market? Within 2 years would be nice
Anyone know a release date, I was looking at getting a Pixel for it soon.
Part of their next gen release, so probably 1 year after their most recent refresh cycle
Its funny seeing everyone here demand an sdcard/removable battery/3.5mm jack claiming to represent all GOS users, actually looking at the GOS matrix chat I don’t see any of these people there. Do any of you even use GOS?
Does this count for al Motorola phones?
You definitely shouldn’t buy a Motorola now with the hope that Graphene will get added to it in the future. This could apply exclusively to pre-flashed devices, for all we know.
no. most or all of their current offerings are very locked down
Hopefully this initiative sticks, sounds like my next phone (eventually) might just be Motorola/Graphene.
Historically, the problem with Motorola hasn’t been their os, it’s been their hardware, it’s just usually not very good when compared to the competition. And often the price is higher for what you’re getting.
I grant that Motorola may neglect to go top of the line (e.g. there’s no ‘flagship grade’ non-folding phone on offer right now), but price wise, at least in the US, it seems to be in line with other options and the cheaper options are generally motorola.
Is this US or elsewhere? What are the better value competition in the mid-lower range.
Big disagree here. Still offer a jack, SD card, etc. Worth way more to me than a high end processor that I don’t use any more than a mid range one.
As long as they have basic shit like NFC or wireless charging. One of the main reasons I stopped buying them. 2nd was the tablet sized screens.
Motorola was kind of sluggish/selective about those, but they seem to pretty consistently have those features now. Always worth double checking.
One of the largest complaints of Pixels I’ve seen is that they’re too expensive. These will cost twice as much.
What? When I was buying my last phone prev gen Pixel cost me 1/3 of what I would have to pay for a Fairphone. It’s the exact opposite, less popular phones with long support are way too expensive compared to Pixel.
I agree, and yet that is the complaint I hear over and over. I don’t understand it, but it is.
I don’t think I have ever heard that for the a series. That if fact, I have always heard that it is just about the best price-value on the market, the downside being that it is google and no SD card slot (which is common now). They use the flagship chip in it still, right?
Damn, Motorola may really make a comeback with this!
Whelp, looks like I’m going to Motorola
Probably a long shot, but I wish they added a headphone jack and sd card to these phones. These features would also benefit privacy.
Actually, a few of the Motorola phones do have headphone jacks and sd card ports, like the moto G. Which is why I’m really, really hoping those are the models supported.
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I will never accept the death of the 3.5mm jack. I refuse to buy wireless ear buds as I know I will lose them. I need my tiny ear speakers to come with anti-misplacement cord technology.
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I mean, I use Bluetooth headphones on my phone most of the time, but I do still require a headphone jack as a backup. I used a phone without one for a while, and decided I need one on future phones, as well as a micro SD card (I need more than a tb of storage for my music and audiobooks).
Check out beats flex, they’re fantastic and have great battery life. Mine are almost six years old and work great still. They’re wireless but cabled together. The cables don’t tangle together like wired earbuds, either. They also charge on USB-C, so you can use your regular charger cable.
I’d love an SD card again. At home, I can just use SMB to access remote file systems on my phone. I can do it while mobile, but despite the gig connection, it’s a bit too slow for my taste. Works for files, but it won’t ever let me watch a downloaded movie on a plane or a podcast while driving across Kansas. I’d rather be able to dump 128GB on an SD card via my laptop (much faster I/O) then stick it in the phone.
I’ve gotten used to BT headphones, but I’d love to be able to plug in to a stereo again without a flakey Bluetooth dongle
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No jack? Send it back.
Do you own a pair of wireless headphones?
I too am curious, imo the headphone jack removal was the first sign of enshitification.
One of the main thing id size of phones, pixel has a series which are comparitevely smaller but I dont know if Moto has any small phones. If only moto make a small phone too, it will be awesome
Hell yeah
i hope they keep this up until i need a new phone
