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And if you didn’t vote for Harris you voted for Trump.
And if you voted for Harris you voted for someone who unashamedly advocated for and spent US tax dollars on everything Israel is doing right now, up to and including sending an Esptein pedophile to multiple states to lecture primary voters on how, actually, it’s a good thing that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are helping Israel kill their family and friends…
…so I’m not 100% sure what point you think you’re making here. The Dems support war with Iran too, because like Donald, they do everything Israel tells them to.
Seems like you’re making the case that they’re effectively the same which is such horseshit? Honestly sick of this take. Millions of voters chose the lesser of two evils and people that sat on the sidelines with the perceived moral high ground make me sick. This is as much their fault as it is Trump’s actual voters.
which is such horseshit?
Did you just sleep through the Biden and Obama presidencies, by chance?
Or the 2024 Democratic primaries, where they literally said they weren’t going to change any of their policies? The same ones supporting the genocide and the state-engineered famine?
You have no reason, whatsoever, to argue that what’s happening now would not be happening under a Harris presidency, and it’s a little annoying being gaslit about it yet again.
People who voted for Trump voted for Trump. Go talk to them.
Blaming anyone else is not only an unhinged attempt to claim some sort of moral ownership of an entire bloc, it isn’t even supported by any reasonable reading of the statistics.
This kind of obsession with whipping other people into maintaining an entrenched two-party system is exactly how America let itself spend the last 40 years getting slowly dragged to the Right in the first place.
Every Dem candidate since 1976 has been close to Jimmy Carter.
Every GOP candidate since Reagan has moved further Right.
And if you voted Harris in the primaries you voted for Trump.
But… no one voted for Harris in the primaries.
None of us at least. Harris only ran in 2020, and dropped out before the primary elections actually began; in 2024 she was appointed by the DNC because fuckwit Biden waited until the last minute to drop out.
You know, when you put it that way, that’s kinda mindblowing.
Bizarre, isn’t it?
Fuck Biden for losing the fucking republic out of his own fucking hubris and ego.
Sorry, I meant it more in a poetic sense to mirror the original sentence. But that was obviously not communicated. My point is more that we should be pressuring DNC candidates to meet the low standards of voters, instead of telling voters that they should abandon their principles. The DNC will never be able to successfully confront the GOP without a positive vision of change and position of blue no matter who can’t offer that
Learn some history.
Back in the day, ex-slave Frederick Douglas had a choice. He could support a full on abolition candidate who was probably going to lose, or support Abe Lincoln. Lincoln had said that he had no plans to abolish slavery. Douglas decided it was better to support the eventual winner and have a seat at the table than make a futile gesture.
Moral purity is more important than results, clearly.
Christ, man, then voters with standards need to start showing up to primaries.
This isn’t some issue where Our Aristocrats™ have already made all their policy positions ahead of time and then forced us poor little plebeians to go along with it. I was fucking on the ground in 2016 and 2020. I remember how the Dem primaries - the primaries for the least right-wing third of this country - went.
Voters choose who runs, extraordinary situations like 2024 exempted. In 1992, in 2000, in 2004, in 2008, in 2016, in 2020, the voters chose who they did because most people do not have the same standards of you or I.
What primaries? You mean the primaries that Biden won due to heavy-handed influence from within the DNC? The primaries that Harris didn’t even run in?
I voted for Williamson in those primaries even though I knew she had zero chance of beating the at the time, current sitting president. I also voted for Harris in the generals because I’m not an idiot.
Wow, so nearly 8 billion people voted for Trump, including every American under 18? Astonishing.
Don’t forget the idiots that didn’t vote because Gaza and now it’s 10x worse
At least the Palestinians are now all saved. They have been saved, right? No? Well at least some people could feel morally superior by not voting for Kamala.
Harris would literally do the same thing in Gaza and Iran.
Surprised you can read your crystal ball with your head so far up your ass
not voting for genociders should be an obvious thing. only American liberals are so fucking morally bankrupt that they think genocide is something that can be excused.
Democrats better have learnt their lesson, because if next elections they run in a campaign to double down on genocide, they’ll lose again.
don’t blame the public for being disgusted by genocide, blame the candidates that masturbate at the sight of babies being blown up.
not voting is the same as voting for whoever wins.
not voting throws your vote away. vote for a candidate that does not support genocide, voting for a genocidal candidate means you endorsed a genocide.
if Democrats see a third party getting 2% of the vote they’ll bend over backwards to coopt their policies, including not commiting a genocide.
not voting third party is establishment propaganda, so you only vote for bribed corporate puppets.
if Democrats see a third party getting 2% of the vote they’ll bend over backwards to coopt their policies, including not commiting a genocide.
Do you not remember 2016
Bernie wasn’t a third party. and the Democrats did all they could to torpedo him, like they do with all the candidates, they chose corporate interests over the voter base. and in doing so, sold the American government to the highest bidder.
they betrayed you and yet you think voting for them is the solution.
my reply was probably too harsh. I’m tired of this argument. it’s the choice america was given.
Rapist pedo fascist who you could describe with almost any -ism/-ist, vs boring establishment evil. One more keen on healthcare reform, voting reform, like literally anything you could vaguely could construe as good vs the most stupid && cartoonishly evil foil an imagination could conjure. And here we are saying “Harris would be just as bad!” Like what??? She would be more inclined to take criticism and make changes from her party, which is the only one even remotely opposed to the atrocities in Gaza, let alone the other innumerable ways Trump and his idiot fucking fascists have damaged our infrastructure, bureaucracy, trust, etc.
It’s actually ridiculous to think we “punished” dems. We punished the palestinian people, brown people in america, Iranians, Ukranians – you name it, we fucked it.
we were presented with a baby grinding machine and instead of choosing the smaller one which is less efficient we chose a Henry Ford style baby smashing factory and held that we were morally superior. It’s inane.
that’s because we keep voting for lesser evil, rewarding them and they become more evil, because they can get away with it.
democratic need to learn that they need actual candidates, not corporate puppets. it got this bad because the “vote lesser evil” enabled it to get this bad.
Love how Democrats get hammered on things Republicans get a pass on.
Are you a special level of stupid? Democrats are supposed to be the opposition, that their whole branding. they should hey hammered for doing a fucking genocide, the same way Republicans are being hammered for doing a genocide and an ethnic cleansing on American soil.
are you saying complaining about Democrats being AIPAC puppets is invalid if I don’t also allocate the same amount of energy yelling at Republicans?
That level of BS is understandable coming from someone who thinks genocide isn’t a deal breaker.
Must have hit close to home if that got you riled up.
It takes a special kind of stupid to take a candidate you agree with 90% of the time and hammer them twice as hard as you do their opponent. Thanks for withholding your vote in protest. That showed 'em.
I’ll serve you a burger with cyanide. it takes a special level of stupid not to eat a burger that’s 99% perfect, with only 1% cyanide.
Are you again, being so morally bankrupt, that you are defending a genocide?
Because Harris and Biden were 100% in support of making it worse, and actively supplied WMD’s on request while helping them engineer a famine. And they sent an Epstein pedophile to wag his finger at Palestinians in multiple states for not supporting the killing of their family and friends.
Of course people voted for change instead. (Even if Donald was lying.)
Frankly, based on the data, there weren’t an especially abnormal number of non voters. The participation rate if anything was a percent or two above normal.
Hey zionist assholes, the oppression in Palestine didn’t start with Trump. You fickwits enabled the current genocide one way or the other.
“My genocide was better than yours” isn’t the flex you think it is. It’s pathetic, but go off.
As long as you have something to feel smug about
Is this Trump’s “Domain Expansion”?
No, that’d be him shitting his pants.
Can you imagine how much better the world would be if:
- Trump voters actually acknowledged they made a mistake
- Trump voters decided not to vote anymore because they realize they make bad decisions
That’s all it would take. They wouldn’t have to commit to doing better research next time. They wouldn’t have to try to defend some of what Trump did, or decide which GOP candidates are actually being honest. Just say “Wow, I fucked up. I shouldn’t vote.”
It’s like an alcoholic who wakes up in a puddle of their own puke. They can try to be more careful in their drinking. Or, they can decide “I can’t be trusted around alcohol”. But, it’s not like voting in a controlled way is fun, the way moderate drinking could be fun. Voting is a chore. It should be a relief to be able to say “I don’t have to pay attention anymore, I’m a gullible idiot, let other people take the reins”.
That would take humility something most Trump voters don’t have in my experience. Seriously the fucken ego on some of them makes my literal ego filled Southern Aristocrat ancestors seem like fucken monks, mind you that’s just the boomers and gen X ones in my experience with younger ones just being stupid or mentally ill in my experience.
That probably wouldn’t do as much good as the people who didn’t vote at all got off their ass.
Including the ones who would have voted for Trump? Including the ones who live in states where the outcome is so one-sided that their votes would not have changed anything? Why is it that you think somehow people who didn’t vote are more responsible than the ones who did?
Sounds like you didnt vote and personalizing this and been cooking that defense for a bit.
Everyone who was gonna vote for Trump did. They got paid to
Either way: get out and vote. Don’t be an ass. It is your one and one one job to do to prevent this shit and you failed at that this time. Don’t you ever ever forget that. No one else will.
Sounds like you didnt vote and personalizing this and been cooking that defense for a bit.
What makes you think I live in the USA?
Everyone who was gonna vote for Trump did. They got paid to
Wow… And I suppose Trump is actually a lizard wearing human skin?
Right and Elon was just there cuz they besties. God you’re dumb.
Elon was at the… “get paid to vote for Trump” fundraiser?
Reddit is suppressing and botting the fuck out of this right now. So many posts cheering and saying it’s all the Iranian government’s fault.
Make posts linking the US admitting that we made the Iranian currency value drop to nothing on purpose just to cause protests and riots and it gets down voted into oblivion. Seriously dead internet theory. It’s like the bots and shills now actually outnumber humans who have bothered to read anything about anything. o_O
Pretty sure that USA hasn’t gone to war in like 80 years. 1942.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States#Declarations_of_war
I’m being sarcastic but this is literally true according to state double-speak. We’ve had almost a century of peace!!!
That’s the thing, no one actually voted for Trump to stop wars. They vote for him because he said he’d hurt the people they don’t like, that’s it. Anything else is either just an attack on the opponents like the whole Kamala war thing or just a thinly veiled distraction from their hatred.
There is a non-trivial part of the cult that is not taking this well. It’s hard to see from across the fence and through the cloud of bots, but there is trouble in MAGA land.
It’s been a year and I still can’t believe how stupid Americans are. He was president before. You knew he shouldn’t be. Yet You elected him again.
What do you mean? This is an operation of peace! /s
I see they’re trading notes with russia. Soon we’ll hear the phrase “special military operation”.
The voted for war against lgbtq people, libs, “illegals”, science, the constitution, “woke”, the economy, and whatever else. They just didn’t plan on real war that doesn’t benefit them in any selfish way.
They voted for suffering and Trump delivers.
Didnt know there are living so many masochists in the US
I don’t think they intended to get themselves hurt, but that’s just a natural result of voting for face-eating leopards.
We can save time by just giving each of them, like, 4 more of these right now.
The last peaceful president and admin who withheld “US Aid” (missiles) from the Middle East was… Carter? Was it Carter? Has it been that long?
and not a few strikes, either. THOUSANDS.
Most just wanted to see other people suffer, because their own life is shit. It does not matter if its a war or slaughtering transvestites.
This meme doesn’t make sense.
In hindsight, yes, Donald was lying, but he did pull the US military out of multiple wars in his first term. (Most notably, Afghanistan, though the withdrawal wasn’t completed during his term.) His record demonstrated that if war is your issue, Donald was the better choice.
In fact, his reticence (until now) to embroil the US in all-out war was one of the few upsides.
