• buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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    Not for nothing. Trump and his friends made butt loads of money!!! And any day that money is going to come trickling down to the average Joe just like it’s supposed to… any day now.

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    Not that equalising the trade deficit would actually make everyone’s lives better in any way because it’s a stupid metric to be concerned with.

    It’s like being concerned at the supermarket never buys anything off you. If you voice that opinion in public people would think you were weird.

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      I feel that with many actors that come out with public issue statements. People probably feel the same about my idols.

      What is one thing we should be concerned about?

      Water!

      mL, Ltr

      Basic global goals ✨

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      I listen to a military podcast and they seem surprised that the US threatening to invade another NATO country was such a big deal for Europeans. 🙈

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      The other half being your friends and allies though.

      So basically you’ve been a POS the entire time but had some nice aspects to your character that you showed exlusively around your friends and family, but that facade you’ve now also dropped which made even them hate you.

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        Let’s not pretend that the allies liked the US before either. The US has been side-eyed by all of the developed world since at least the W. Bush era. It’s been more of a “that dude is a bully, but smile and nod and he’ll hopefully steal someone else’s lunch money instead of ours, and maybe Russia will think we’re friends and not steal our lunch money either”. Now he’s teaming up with Russia and going after everyone’s lunch money.

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          As a Canadian, the US was like a brother; maybe a bit rough around the edges bit still a close family bond. Now, it’s like the brother has a meth addiction and stole a bunch of your stuff. There’s a deep sense of betrayal that will last decades, assuming he goes into rehab and attones and doesn’t completely ruin things forever.

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            I’m not saying the US can’t recover from this, Germany came back from worse after all, but it would take a long time. And I imagine the US turnaround would be more like Japan (pretend everything was very legal and very cool) than the full reckoning Germany had.

            Although the US does love flip-flopping between extremes, so who knows? Just like they went from assaulting soldiers returning from Vietnam to compulsively thanking everyone for their service, maybe they’ll be all woke and friendly next? Too bad it takes so little for them to flip-flop back again, so you can’t really trust it.

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            I made this exact argument on another forum 20 years ago. It was true then. Now I think you need to severely escalate your analogy.

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        Those nice aspects were fake performances that only existed to obfuscate any suspicions that we might have been the bad guy all along.

        Now that everything is out in the light and our objectors have been proven right maybe we can be forced to change or be ostracized until we do. Our friends and allies are better off without us until then.

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          Those nice aspects were probably rose-tinted nostalgia of what we remeniscence the USA to be, the gallantrous saviour from Nazi-Germany. It took us 80 years to realize that that gallantry was only during WW2 and maybe not even then.

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            Rose-tinted nostalgia that was purposely manufactured through pervasive mass-media and institutionalized propaganda. The US population has been heavily indoctrinated ever since the 1950s and the second Red Scare/McCarthyism.

            People are nostalgic for something that didn’t exist because they grew up on stories and teachings that were utter fabrications of events which overplayed the US’s role in WW2 and downplayed the atrocities we committed to our own people and those abroad in our Imperialist quest to cement capitalism as the global economy and stifle the growing wave of communist sentiment that was on the rise during the early-to-mid 1900s.

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    it wasnt for nothing. it made stupid magats happy! and the world is now moving away from the usa as a trade partner.

    sO mUcH WiNniNg

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    The good news is all that money you paid Is going straight out of the governments coffers and back to corporations with no obligation to pay you back.

    Oh, also, you have a new hundred billion dollar hole in your budget because that was to pay for the billionaires tax cuts.

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    I lost my job because of cuts in May. I haven’t been able to find full time employment since. I’m not sure I’m going to recover.

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        Everyone wants me to make sacrifices without ever lifting a finger to help me. I’m too busy upskilling, job hunting, and doing part time physical labor.

        I’ll tell you what you send me help with bills, my mortgage, or food then we’ll talk about me doing something you want me to do.

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    The rapists and their followers got richer though, and more authoritarian regimes are coming along nicely while cooperation and peace are suppressed

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    If it helps any, we don’t hate Americans, by and large. We pity you. It’s your leaders we hate.

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    How do you have a trade surplus in a consumer society? How do people not see how stupid the trade deficit excuse is? Are Americans that uneducated?

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    I visited one of my customers yesterday, a metal anodizing plant. Only the owner was there, he told me they had no orders to fill and that he hadn’t seen anything like this since 2008

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    Making everyone hate USA for peanuts. Priceless

    “There are some things money can’t buy; for everything else, there’s Mastercard”

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    And do understand:

    The world hates you

    Before most of the world hated you but the west sort of let your bullshit slide because the net avert outcome was great for them and fairly good for the rest of the world minus those countries being butt fucked by the US for reasons.

    Now? Everyone hates you, your now ex-allies included. This will not go back to normal again ever. The USA, as you’ve known it, is over. Resistance is futile, so to speak, as you’re now living in a fascist state that likely will nosedive into a fully blown dictatorship

    Whenever (between now and the next 100 or so years) the US recovers, nldo not expect the rest of the world to stand ready with their asses up so that you can go continue fucking everyone. Either the US completely rebuilds it’s political system from the ground up, jails those responsible for crimes committed in this past decade of trumpism, and switches to an actual democratic system, you can go fuck yourself and play with yourself because nobody will be playing with you ever again anytime soon

    And even if we will play with you, it will never again be the same. You had the world at your feet, people were pushing US economy just because, and you fucked it all up next you couldn’t keep your billionaires and racists in check.

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      Even a quick gloss over the history of relations between the USA and Latin/America/Middle East/South East Asia will inform anyone of what sort of horrors that country has been unleashing on the world for MANY decades.

      We hated you before Trump because you killed us, tortured us, and supported strongmen who did the same to us. What you are doing now is what you’ve always been doing, and what you will continue to do if given the chance. You will not stop until either the planet or all of us are dead.

      No, of course not all US citizens are to blame for Trump and his fascism, but the millions who were stomped under your boots all over the world and continue to suffer are innocent as well, and what was ever done for all those victims?

      Countless military dictatorships put in power with US support, peasants murdered to make way for gold mines and banana plantations, weddings cowardly drone bombed from above, torture carried out in Abu Gharaib. The terrorism has been relentless and never ending.

      Your corporations and your soldiers taught us all we ever wanted to know about your country. Do us all a favor and stay within your own borders. I hope you kill your internal fascism, I really do, but what I’m more concerned about is the external fascism the rest of the world has suffered at your hands.

      I have many good friends in the USA, but we all just can’t deal with that country, what it is now, and what it’s ALWAYS been. I’ve seen the destruction it has wrought with my own eyes. ICE is horrendous, but have you seen an entire town flattened by US munitions along with its civilians?

      As Derick Jensen wrote about the police, why do we hate the police? Because they hated us first.

      That sums up my thoughts about the relationship between the USA and the rest of the world.

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      Let me start by saying that as a person unlucky enough to be born in the shithole United States, I completely agree with you.

      But, I do not believe that the 2024 election was legitimate. So we the actual people may or may not be responsible. Just keep that possibility in mind, and know that it is no excuse for why this bullshit continues. It’s just my personal belief that the fascist oligarchs purchased this past election wholesale.