“Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
Full disclosure, this was a response to a deleted comment lol
Also, does anyone know why Connect for Lemmy is highlighting almost every comment bright purple?
Sure. Lets all assume MAGA believed it was a “hoax, or democratic lie” before today. Now that it isnt they need to explain why they still support Trump.
Because it’s about their side winning. They don’t care about trump exactly, they care about their team.
This entire political party is fucking insane. It’s telling that this numbnut is spreading the most reasonable message from their camp at the moment. The U.S. is so fucked. And it’s pathetic how most people don’t rebel. Now they say “wait for the next vote”, but there won’t be a proper vote. Your government are a bunch of pedophiles protecting themselves and each other by holding onto their power. Ah, will write nothing more. It’s not doing anything anyway.
I miss the days when MTG stood for Magic the Gathering.
As far as I know, this MTG never sicced the Pinkertons on anyone.
Just ICE implicitly.
My favorite part of MTG turning on her friends is that it is all in response to being told she won’t be endorsed as a Senate candidate by the GOP. If she can’t have her fiefdom then no one can.
That’s the thing about authoritarians: they attract authoritarian followers (thought not exclusively). If the authoritarian at the top fails to recognize those of their followers that have the same traits and give them enough of a “fiefdom” to rule, then they betray. It’s one of the things that makes fully authoritarian rule fragile (most long-term successful dictators ensure they give enough power to the right people under them).
First Rule of Fascism: You can piss off your citizens, you can piss off your staff, but you absolutely cannot piss off your military leaders. They actually hold the power, and would have no problem just shooting you in the face, if the situation was dire enough.
Also, friendly reminder than Stalin died a horrible and painful death because he told his guards to not disturb him, and he lied there in a pool of his own piss until most of the day was gone. Extreme punishments for breaches of protocol come with a cost.
I’ll never like her.
I will begrudgingly acknowledge that she was likely suckered in the same way so many people were suckered, and is now trying to do the right thing.
I will continue to quietly suspect that she’s probably an accessory to the cover up in some way and is trying to save her own ass.
However, the enemy of my enemy and all…
She’s on a tear because she thought she’d get a top cabinet position, only to discover that Trump along with everyone else in the party thinks she’s a moron.
To be fair, she IS a moron.
To be fair!
I don’t really think she is trying to do the right thing. She was Trumps biggest ally for YEARS while he did some of the worst things, you could think of and she most likely knew about the Epstein stuff way before this and actively covered it up. She doesn’t believe in anything except her own power.
I think, the reason she is doing this is because she recognized that Trump is a sinking ship and she is trying to take advantage of that for her own gain. Maybey she wants to run for president in the future or at least be the loyal companion of one. If she were to continue defending Trump for everything his admin does, she would sink with him, so she tries to get out.
She’s not trying to do the right thing. She was perfectly happy being compliant with the current administration as long as her back was scratched. Now that they’ve thrown her under the bus, she wants to piss in as many teacups as possible!
Sometimes, even basically evil people have a line they won’t cross. Deceiving the public and corrupting the rule of law beyond repair, just to protect a cabal of pedophile rapists, seems to be that line, for an alarmingly small number of republicans. I guess she just didn’t think it would come to that. MTG is probably just your basic greedy racist vindictive kind of evil. I can imagine why the sadistic child raping stuff might be a deal breaker for some people.
I think MTG is loyal to “her people”. She’s fine when “other people” are hurt, but Epstein and his co-conspirators hurt white, Christian, American girls. We’re seeing more and more people breaking off from MAGA based on their personal principles, like the NRA and other 2nd amendment rights group speaking out against the Pretti shooting.
Donald has no principles whatsoever, he just wants to “win” and demands absolute loyalty no matter what. It looks like some of his supporters are starting to see the con job, or maybe they already did, but they’re starting to realize that allying with a man who will betray you as soon as you’re no longer useful is a bad strategy.
The thing is, the line here wasn’t some moral conflict. From what I understand, she’s mad because the republicans wouldn’t back her senate run. All this was ok with her as long as she continued to have a political career.
The enemy of your enemy is just another enemy.
Then where the hell are my friends?
She’s an utterly dispicable woman. That doesn’t mean she’s wrong on this one issue.
It’s completely fine (and reasonable) to say “I hate this person and everything they stand for but on this one issue we’re in complete agreement”.
I mean, everyone already knew this
It’s good for her supporters to hear her say this.
It’s too late, though. She’d dead to hardcore MAGA, no Rumble influencer would dare amplify her, and algorithms would never show this to people more on the fence.
One report I saw says she changed her stance when some of her supporters did. There’s no doubt she brings along a few people and that’s good.
That’s the problem though.
All these increasingly more narrowly-defined subsections of subcultures that people are supposed to add to their list of things to hate or to support based on which part of the imagined binary you think you’re in is, in the end, just how pedovore psychos decided to use media companies to turn the world into a Gordian Knot of strife so they could continue to act with impunity.
It’s well past time to stop just throwing labels at people whether we support them or not.
I’m going to take a controversial stand here: anyone who is actively against billionaires eating cream cheese intestines of babies they just fucked as they try to control the world is on the right side of things.
Does someone hate something you think they should love or love something you think they should hate? Then you should hope they change, or talk to them, or reexamine your own conception of things. Have you been radicalized to some extent by the baby-eating pedo elites? It’s not too late to take stock and reconsider.
It’d be more useful if her one issue was with Trump calling Georgia (the state she represents) for more votes. Republicans are cool with that because it was their side doing it.
How many supporters does she have left? There must have been a big overlap with the MAGA-no-matter-what, and I would assume most were not pro-MTG first, pro-Trump second.
It’s good to see cracks in the MAGA figures ranks, but I doubt she still has as much influence as medias and social networks attention.
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Dropped a bombshell? More like dropped some water in the ocean. This is obvious to anyone not burying their head in the sand.
Not on this side of the great information rift, no. But think of the people imprisoned inside the MAGA echo chamber. For them this may be news, and MJT and Rogan do have the potential to pierce the walls of their “conservative” media rubber rooms just enough for some fresh air to come through.
They’re on that side because they choose to be there. There could be a cure for cancer on this side and they wouldn’t care.
I’m not defending or glorifying either of them. They’ve done tons of damage to the U.S. by spreading lies and division. What I’m saying is that they might prove useful idiots for a change, fracturing the MAGA cult just enough to allow the less brainwashed to come to their senses.
They absolutely WOULD care. If you cure cancer, you lose all the money being made to treat cancer, and THAT can’t happen.
This is true, but it shouldn’t be :(
So freaking tired of these bombshell reports and then once you read it, it’s like no shit. I already knew that.
MTG represents the post-Epstein MAGA movement. All the fascist policy, none of the Epstein baggage. She is extremely valuable to the movement pivoting around the pedophilia.
That raises an interesting question: how many MAGA figures are not compromised by the Epstein files? How much support would they have left from oligarchs and foreign MAGA allies?
Too bad she’s a woman. That won’t respect her enough to follow her. She’s should get her husband to say exactly what she said. Then they’ll listen.
I don’t think that’s a bad thing. The fact is, she is still a smarmy lunatic who supports fascism, even if she dislikes Trump personally. The left elevating her as a “reasonable centrist” gives her power and its power she would giddily abuse if given the opportunity.
Someone got their claws into MTG to have her come out as a dark horse candidate aiming to disrupt a JD Vance presidency. She would be the candidate in this scenario. She is being positioned to be the candidate that “saw through the bullshit and is on normal conservatives’ side”.
It very likely will work.
That may be the case. But AOC is on record saying MTG is just acting out of rage due to the fact that Trump personally killed any chance of her becoming a Georgia senator. Apparently that was the straw that broke the camel’s back resulting in the current incarnation of MTG.
It may work but it’s not likely to. Marj is/was too much of a whack-job and she’ll have a harder time becoming seemingly “sane” again. I hope you are wrong at any rate.
The MAGA fucknuts are too dumb and brainwashed to realize the shit they voted for.
One thing I like about her is that she became super outspoken about the fact that Israel basically has congress occupied. Most people in congress have an aipac handler they have to run everything by. Epstein and Ghisline were Mossad so I respect her honesty on this one issue.
Israel has single-handedly destroyed most of the credibility of american liberalism. Gotta hand it to the Israeli government for fucking being so gross and evil that they’ve helped tank both US political parties.
“Jewish people control everything” but with more words
ah yes, more “”“Anti-Zionism”“”?
Zionism is a white supremisist ideology that is being used by the settler colonialist state of Israel to justify the mass slaughter of the “genetically” impure. Like other supremisist ideologies Zionism references pseudoscience to claim superiority over others to justify the mass slaughter of people who do not meet their genetic or purity requirements to justify expansion and their own imperial ambitions. Zionism is no more a religion than the settler colonialist ideology that justified the genocide of the Native Americans or the fantastical and pseudoscientific ideology of the Nazis.
I appreciate that this is in the “not the onion” community.
WomanMGT makes common sense statement! Bombshell news!Edit: Accidental sexism. My problem is with MGT, not women.
I mean, the woman was MTG. More accurately, woman who believes in Jewish space lasers that control the weather makes common sense statement! Bombshell news!
sigh… Fair.
I wonder if that was her playing her character.
This is what people don’t get about the world around them. Everybody likes to point at laugh at WWE and say “THAT SHIT IS SOOOOOO FAKE!!!” as if it’s audience is unaware.
I like to point at the government and say WWE is more real than the fake shit called “politics”. The difference is, most people think politics is real.
Just like how people in the early 2000s people thought Paris Hilton was a dumb blond bimbo. She went to HARVARD!!! But she played a character of a dumb blonde bimbo on tv. So now people think it’s real.
Humans are dumb.
Paris Hilton dropped out of high school and later got her GED. I can’t find any source saying she attended Harvard.
MTG is not a smart person
Now that’s a take on this news. Wow.
Well, shit. I just realized how that comment can be inferred. You have my apologies. I have edited it for clarity.
How many more bombshells to bring this scumbag down? I feel like we’re about 149 bombshells in and still nothing is happening
I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that nothing is happening. That’s not to say I don’t understand how you could think that. And I’m sorry I don’t mean to single you out. There’s a lot of this sentiment going around.
TV news and even most of our platforms algorithms are actively hiding the work that’s being done, the results being achieved, and a sense of doom is being injected into the discourse from every conceivable angle.
Here’s what’s actually happened in the last few weeks. Please copy and paste this list to help chill the doomer bullshit.
- Multiple deep-red state legislative seats flipped Democratic in special/off-year elections
- Texas State Senate SD-9 flipped (Trump +17 district)
- GOP margins collapsing in seats previously considered “safe red”
- Greg Bovino removed from Border Patrol leadership after Minneapolis backlash
- ICE ended / wound down the Minneapolis enforcement surge (per DHS statements)
- Federal courts repeatedly blocking or pausing Trump-aligned immigration actions
- DOJ forced into written explanations to Congress over Epstein file handling
- Pam Bondi Judiciary hearing exposed internal contradictions and GOP fractures
- MAGA figures publicly breaking with Donald Trump over Epstein disclosures
- House Judiciary and Oversight escalating demands for documents and testimony
- Hundreds of active lawsuits challenging Trump-aligned executive actions
- State AGs successfully freezing federal funding cuts through injunctions
- Courts increasingly intervening before policies take effect rather than after damage
- GOP forced into defensive posture instead of agenda-setting
They have 0 momentum right now. The ground is actively crumbling beneath them. The outlook isn’t as bleak as our media sources would want us to believe.
One more thing to add is that historically the outcomes of these kinds of tension are literally never what anyone predicts. Never the authoritarians, never the people fighting for their rights. What outcomes follow always have everything to do with how hard those continuing to fight fought.
The reason the news has us believing we’ve made no progress is because we’re winning a class war.
NIce summary, and nicely timed. Keep pushing friends! The tide is turning, but that’s not passive, it’s from our actions. Take a breath, do your self care, help those whom you are able, and keep pushing onward.
Wow. What a shocking bombshell.
