This entire political party is fucking insane. It’s telling that this numbnut is spreading the most reasonable message from their camp at the moment. The U.S. is so fucked. And it’s pathetic how most people don’t rebel. Now they say “wait for the next vote”, but there won’t be a proper vote. Your government are a bunch of pedophiles protecting themselves and each other by holding onto their power. Ah, will write nothing more. It’s not doing anything anyway.

Sounds good.

That’s the joke. I didn’t specify. Who you see as the unserious clown totally depends on your personal opinion.

There is no validity to the claim that immigrants cause crime.

Actually, there is, because you’ve misunderstood what I was saying. We’re kinda on the same page though. Immigrants WILL bring crime, because they’re just as likely as any other group of people to commit them. Now, the question whether they bring any crime at all is a totally different one than the question asking whether they are more or less likely to commit crimes (statistically) than the native population.

Crime statistics generally show immigrants charged for crimes at a same or lower rate than non-immigrants.

Which crime statistic? Immigration is a complex topic and the impact on crime statistics hugely depends on who immigrates into which country and who lives there.

If you ask left-leaning people to look at the historical immigration of European settlers to North America and the native population there, people will quickly say “Oh yeah, they were horrible! They came, raped, robbed and murdered the native population!”, but if you ask them how they see modern immigration, they will magically say that it’s all good and that all immigrants are good people and enrich the culture. Yet, those European settlers were immigrants as well (…). There is a huge bias towards how immigration is being seen there and it has something to do with the ideology you’re being taught while you grow up. As I have said, the truth is much more complex and harder to grasp. And you really have to look at the statistics, because some biasses turn out to be true - and others do not.

Some groups of immigrants may have a lower chance of committing crimes, others may have a higher chance of doing so.

In Germany for example, immigrants have a significantly higher crime rate than German citizens (https://de.statista.com/themen/13642/auslaenderkriminalitaet-in-deutschland/#topicOverview) and the ratio of immigrants to citizens in criminal convictions has been rising for the last 6 years (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/223/umfrage/verurteilte-straftaeter-nach-nationalitaet/). There are many factors to consider here, like citizens more likely to report the police to the crime of an immigrant, immigrants living in poverty or destitute conditions (making it more likely for them to steal for example), less availability of lawyers and legal assistance and so on. People from Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria were much more likely to commit violent acts - including rape - for example (https://www.bpb.de/themen/innere-sicherheit/dossier-innere-sicherheit/301624/migration-und-kriminalitaet/). While immigrants from Georgia and the African countries were more likely to commit acts of fraud or thievery.

Things might look totally different for the USA, Brazil, Mexico and so on.

It’s factually true to say that immigrants always bring crime.

It’s factually false to say that immigrants always bring more crime than the native population.

It’s factually true to say that immigrants can commit more crime percentage-wise than the native population.

It’s factually true to say that immigrants can commit less crime percentage-wise than the native population.

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No wonder nobody takes them seriously.

The reasoning is that few immigrants - just like in the local population - will be committing criminal acts. I don’t think the crime statistics show that there are no criminal acts committed by immigrants as well. But maybe I have misunderstood you. What exactly is your point?

Thank you for blocking, fragile person. Be proxy-offended somewhere else.

Well, the minimum of main culture aspects being supporting the democracy, a certain amount of tolerance for others with different opinion and looks, rule of law. “well integrated subculture” meaning people joining an already exisiting main culture in different ways, like immigrants and not being openly hostile to people with other opinions or looks who stem from other subcultures/backgrounds without proper reason. An indication of a failed integration are parallel societies within one country.

Yes, I would agree with you that polite, nonviolent and maybe even friendly interaction is positive. The main culture aspect or fundamental understanding of the US society is problematic these days. One could even argue whether it’s still exists. However, since there are many people who fight for it, you could at least argue that the idea still exists.

“we would be far poorer without the contributions from other cultures” Very much debatable. There are so many positive AND negative aspects of it. People from the ends of the political spectrum see it in a contrasting manner. Pro-immigration people will biased towards positivity á la “enrichment” while contra-immigration people will be biased towards negativity á la “criminals and rapists”. The truth is somewhere in between - both things can be true at the same time, often depending on the individuals and group dynamics. It’s complex.

The part about the food is very much true. The same thing is true for Turkish and Middle-Eastern food here in Germany and I very much enjoy it. An argument against it would be illegal immigration, human and drug trafficking, narco organizations, wage competition, wages without taxation and so on. On the other hand, you have great workers who value education for their kids, have good food, are sometimes lovely people, support the wobbly demographics and so on. I think we can all agree that your president and ICE are not a good solution for any of this though. It was never meant to be one.

I know they’re satirizing it. But that was the point, they’re still singing part about the song in English so that English speakers still understand part of it. That makes the art more powerful in my opinion.

ok, deflect then. why go through all that effort of writing all this if you don’t want an answer? Oh, right. You’re trying to pretend to yourself that you’re right.

enjoy your life in America then. seems to go swimmingly for guys like you who know everything about integration and understanding.

You know, this actually plays IN FAVOUR of my argument and shows that you know fuck all about Rammstein. When Rammstein made a song critical of US culture, they actually DID partiallly sing in English!

-> Amerika “We’re all living in America! Amerika, ist wunderbar!” “This is not a love song This is not a love song I don’t sing my mother tongue No, this is not a love song”

You guys don’t know shit and yet you criticize me. And the absurd thing is that I’m not even criticizing Bad Bunny, but am in favour of his message.

I never said that it’s not an official language. Why accuse me of something I’ve not said? “Pointing out that this country’s identity is and should be about more than White English Speakers.” Yeah, as I said, the show was okay. But I wished I could have understood the lyrics as well. And I think a lot of other people would have wished for that as well. The ending show sign was very good though.

You haven’t read my comment by the way. I said I watched a video of it (on YouTube). There were no subtitles available under that video. I also haven’t said that this show should’ve pandered to White English speakers. That’s another baselesse accusation. I said it would have been a more powerful message, if the message he rapped about in the lyrics would have been at least partially understandable to English speakers. A mix would have shown how both languages are part of the same US-American identity. That’s what I was about.

How the fuck am I supposed to know as a German that this show had subtitles in the original tv screening? By the way, most people on Reddit have mentioned that it actually didn’t have any subtitles, so there were probably differences in to whom it was available. Maybe dependent on the tv station?

Fuck’s sake man. Why do you make up shit to get offended about? We’re on the same team. Some of you guys are a bunch of nitpicky assholes who thrive on finding things to argue about rather than trying to find things you might have in common.

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No hate on him, but I understand why. I’m German, but I speak English and a little Spanish as well. When I saw a video of the Superbowl halftime show, I got the symbolism, but I didn’t understand anything he was saying in Spanish.

If you’re trying to convey to the American public that you’re a well integrated subculture that deserves to be treated equally in terms of American law, I don’t think it’s very helpful if you rap about that in Spanish, because most white U.S. citizens don’t speak Spanish. So if you use all that “Mechico immigrantos good”-symbolism in the pictures, but can’t express yourself properly, it’s going to confirm their racist beliefs that integration is not successful. For me, personally, it made the first impression that this rapper is not from the U.S. mainland culture. Do mind that I had no other context or knowledge about him at that point in time. Would I have wished for a different show? No, it was still okay. But I think a mix of English and Mexican Spanish would have been more powerful.

cybercrime and cocaine trade are the new bank robberies

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Nothing to be really sorry about. Looks great! Brought back memories from Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (film). You’ve got a talent for making cinematic backgrounds!

Also works for Batman.

*sirens