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    What does this mean? That other employees are going to be expected to give up their own vacation/sick leave to pregnant co-workers? The state is so cheap they aren’t willing to give them their own leave? WTAF.

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      I don’t know what’s more mind boggling to me, the OP or the fact that you can donate sick days. The fact that you can donate them means they’re finite, what the fuck do you mean you don’t know when you are going to be sick

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        My company just transitioned to a system where we get 30 days of paid leave annually. Sounds good for an American company, right? But that 30 days includes every category of leave (except parental, which is at least something, but only applies when your child is born.)

        So in addition to maybe you want to take a vacation, this “bank” of leave also includes sick days, medical appointments, anything related to your kids after they’re born, jury duty (you’re required by federal law to attend if selected) and everything else. This is completely legal where I live btw.

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          My company does the same, but you start with 5 days and get more the longer you’re with the company. You max out at 25 days after 10 years as an employee.

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      A lot of places have it set up as “compassion leave”. Usually it’s done by the employee association and they approve it for personal tragedies. If someone’s house burns down, for example.

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    “Donated sick days”? WTF? Sick days should be a right. Maternity leave should be a right.

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      FMLA IS a right (albeit crap compared to most of the rest of the civilized world). They just find ways to screw people out of it

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        For people outside of the US, FMLA is up to three months of unpaid leave where you get the privilege of getting to keep your job and your benefits (though you continue to pay for them while not being paid) if you have a medical justification to be out of work.

        For many American women, this is all they have access to for maternity leave. So they power through those three months (caring for a newborn no less) then have to scrap together the cash to put their 4 month old in day care ($15 to $20k annually) while not getting paid for that quarter of the year.

        40% of infants are still breast feeding at 12 months. This means a new mom is often trying to find time at work to pump and is providing pumped milk to the daycare to be given to their child while they're working. Health officials consider only 40% to be less than ideal since breastfeeding has immunological and cognitive benefits for infants and remarkably cognitive benefits even for moms later in life. Many American women stop breast feeding at 6 months (the minimum recommended duration) since pumping at work becomes too cumbersome. 
        

        Around 40 to 45% of women in the US don’t even qualify for FMLA because your employer needs to be large enough (50+ employees) and you need to have worked for them long enough (usually a year) to qualify.

        Blue states fill the gap with their own state run programs (still usually only three months, though you get some pay) but if you’re in a red state the choice for many women is 1) have children and enter financial ruin or 2) don’t have children.

        America lags behind most advanced economies in this regard and there isn’t any sign of these circumstances improving.

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    Manufactured subjectivity for serfs: “Remember: Your children are very sacred to us until they are born into in this world; then they become slave-meat for degenerate billionaires.”

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    What are “donated sick days” don’t you have maternity leave in the USA?

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      It’s where they make you beg your coworkers for their own sick leave to be transferred to you, or have HR send out an email blast begging employees to donate their own meager PTO to you, instead of the employer granting an appropriate amount of sick or maternity leave to begin with.

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        How does that even work? How can you transfer sick days? It’s not like you have a fixed amount of days you are allowed to be sick, right… right?

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          You generally have a fixed amount of paid sick days per year. Those are what’s being transferred.

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            That’s fucking insane.

            Here, if you’re sick you get sick leave. There is no real limit other than after 2 years of illness you basically go on disability instead of sick leave.

            What if your illness takes longer than the amount of days you have, you are just expected to show up at the office in your hospital bed?

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      Americans have maternity leave under the Family Medical Leave Act but it’s a paltry 12 weeks and unpaid.

      So for many people, including these teachers, they have the choice of paying your bills or taking care of your kid or begging your coworkers to please give up their vacation days so you can continue to live while having a baby

      Like every other third world country.

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    Who is expected to donate these sick days? Are any women not done with children ever going to donate days? Because you might need those for your own pregnancies. And once you have kids, you need all of your sick days because your kids can’t go to daycare or school when they’re sick. If you’re done raising kids, you’re probably old enough for aging related illnesses, you’ll need those days for managing care and prevention (colonoscopy for example). That leaves the younger single folks without children, who inevitably have fewer sick days to start. I never had any sick days when I was teaching part time, and no health insurance either.

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    I think it’s fascinating how they keep doing bizarro socialism (your sick days? our sick days), just to avoid making capitalists contribute to society.

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    I live in this state.

    These same folks can’t seem to figure out why we’ve had an ever worsening teacher shortage for the last couple of decades or so, btw. (Spoiler alert: It may not solely be due to the fact that everyone who can gets the fuck out of here as soon as humanly possible 🤯)

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    1. what the fuck does “donated sick days” mean
    2. what does sick leave have to do with this anyway
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    The idea is women should not be working in the first place. Taking all the men jobs like teaching children!

    🤡