Apple has set a new deadline of November 1, 2026 for all Patreon creators to switch from Patreon's legacy billing system to the App Store's in-app purchase system in the Patreon app on the iPhone and iPad, as reported by TechCrunch. Note: This image has been edited to include a pile of cash. Patreon is a platform where creators such as YouTubers can receive payments from fans, which can be a valuable revenue stream alongside ads and sponsorships.
  • Dewege@feddit.orgEnglish
    61·
    7 days ago

    To follow this logic: if you use an e-banking app, Apple will soon claim to be entitled to 30% of all transactions. Same for paypal, ebay, you name it

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      7 days ago

      Apple charges 30% when you sell digital goods within an app. That’s not the same as moving money in your bank account or buying something on eBay.

      It’s still robbery, but it’s not the same.

      When people subscribe, they typically get something digital in return on Patreon.

  • JChildermass@lemmy.caEnglish
    18·
    6 days ago

    I didn’t even know there was a Patreon app. I signed up through the website. On a computer. Old school.

    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      7 days ago

      Right? You’d think Patreon would throw their weight against Apple, as this is clearly not in their best interest. Threaten to pull the app, and if Apple follows through, they get nothing. Alternatively, move payments entirely outside of the app and force Apple to either do something which is guaranteed to be extremely unpopular, or call their bluff. But they won’t do these things or even try to negotiate Apple’s cut.

      Apple may appear to swing the biggest dick here, but I am so disgusted by these weak companies just immediately bending over without a fight.

      As always, it’s the creators who will be faced with hardship, but neither entity seems to give a shit.

      • ranzispa@mander.xyzEnglish
        4·
        7 days ago

        Is It better for patreon to lose 30% of income from Apple pay, or to have Apple users not being able to pay unless they open the webpage and pay from there? Is it better for them to remove the app altogether and have users on Apple forced to use it through the website?

        I’d imagine they’d lose quite a bit of subscriptions if they did that. Is that more or less than 30% is something I don’t know.

        • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          7 days ago

          They could go on the offensive with messaging and get subscribers to apply pressure on Apple to keep things the same… Would it work? Probably not, but it might get some of the Apple users onside.

        • duncan_bayne@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          Is it better for them to remove the app altogether and have users on Apple forced to use it through the website?

          Yes. Clearly yes, for everyone. This sort of shit only continues because people don’t do that.

          • ranzispa@mander.xyzEnglish
            1·
            5 days ago

            I would imagine this would lead to having less users. Or people that use it less. It would also make the experience for users worse. As such it would lead to less subscriptions. It is not clear to me that this would be better. I’m not sure on whether it would be worse, but I doubt it’d be better for everyone.

      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        Conversely, Apple is nothing but an overpriced burner phone without the apps. No one is buying it for safari and iTunes.

  • madcaesar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    7 days ago

    I fucking hate mega corps. It’s never fucking enough… Ever… Apple has more money than some countries yet these assholes want ever more…

    Tax all these assholes into oblivion!

    • DannyMac@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      6 days ago

      Hey, the poor billionaire CEOs are under a bunch of pressure to ensure the company sticks to its infinite growth schedule.

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    27·
    7 days ago

    Just crank all iOS user payments up by 30%, explain why, and let nature sort itself out.

    • Tilgare@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      7 days ago

      Apple doesn’t allow this - they expect your price to be the same everywhere or they’ll remove the app from their store or decline version updates. There have historically been a few high profile exceptions privately negotiated, and I think they were forced to relax this in the last year or two, but here they are again trying to claw away money they did literally nothing to earn.

      • Spezi@feddit.orgEnglish
        6·
        7 days ago

        Instagram puts way more than 30% on their ads when purchasing through iOS

        If you buy 100€ of ad budget, they want you to pay an additional 42.5% apple service fee and additional taxes here in Germany.

        If I do it through their ad center suddenly the taxes are already included in the budget so if I pay 100€ I get 100€. So in the end, Meta charges iOS users an additional 70% vs what they usually charge.

      • Pyr@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        7 days ago

        I have an app which reduces the quality of the app for apple users to force them to subscribe more than Android users.

        The price is the same, but on android there’s no limit to the number of saves you can keep whereas Apple has a limit of 5 and you need to Subscribe at $30/year to unlock more saves.

  • TheFonz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    6 days ago

    Timmy Cook is just a bean counter. He’s got nothing to innovate or build. That’s Apple has been buying back shares non stop. Their lead designer jumped ship a while ago. It’s only a matter of time.

    • brianpeiris@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      7 days ago

      3.78 Trillion dollar market cap. You don’t get to that valuation by being generous to your customers. Apple is as capitalist as any of them. They’re just wrapped in shiny marketing. Now only if their fans understood that.

    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      That’s what chasing infinite growth does to a corporation. Things are going to get way worse before the collapse.

  • network_switch@lemmy.mlEnglish
    22·
    7 days ago

    Terribly need degoogled android to become popular and/or a normal Linux distribution phone to become popular so that normal Linux market share couldn’t be ignored

  • Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    6 days ago

    Choose another payment method. Choose another platform - web based? - where these fees don’t apply. Hell, buy a throwaway droid phone to keep your money from apple’s greedy hands.

  • lechekaflan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    7 days ago

    Makes me think why ever since Photoshop was first created, Apple became the go-to for creatives for decades, and now Apple thinks it wants more money than just the fanatics going after their latest product.

    • stellargmite@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      6 days ago

      Apple screwed their pro market anyway. Sometime back . The history with apple and creatives relates more to print history I’d guess . Adobe needs to be ditched , and is in some areas. Windows is a shitshow as we know. There are lessening reasons to be wedded to either Mac OS or Windows as they continue to enshittify and I for one welcome it.

  • lofuw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    4·
    6 days ago

    Yes! Exploit the morons as much as they’re willing to be exploited!

    None of them have the brains/balls to fight back.