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    Clinton is problematic as fuck, but holy shit the difference between reading this and the “your mom” outrageously stupid sounding bullshit the current admin puts out is so remarkable. I do so miss having smart people at the top. Say what you want about Clinton and Obama, at least both were wicked smart and able to communicate well.

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    Not sure what it is like in other countries, but you should know that it is extremely RARE in US politics for a former president to speak out against the current president. Even rarer to issue a formal statement.

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      Yeah, that’s cute. We’re a little past the point where the ruffling of the ruling class’ powdered wigs impresses anyone.

      Not sure the little kids screaming for their parents care.

      I don’t think folks getting their faces kicked and scraped against the pavement care.

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      Side note: this being a rarity is probably a net good thing. History shows that when the old guy and the new guy fight, it doesn’t bring unity or peaceful transfers of power which are arguably more important than the bad one getting whatever they deserve.

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    Except, you helped significantly get us here, Bill.

    You and you shitty fucking wife, not only moved the Overton Window MUCH further right with your presidency, but you and your wife forced themselves upon Dem voters in 2016 regardless of the fact you were and are both insanely unpopular with the voter base.

    You’re an asshole. Hillary is an asshole. You both enabled this shit, and should be held accountable too.

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      … and the statement is typical of the milquetoast “strongly worded letter” response that made Democrats into the weak hand they are now

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      Well that’s a revisionist republican take. Dude balanced the budget. Hillary’s primary was fair, Bernie was never popular with registered Democrats, he was never going to win and anybody not buying republican bullshit was well aware of it. If anything Clinton pulled the window left before 9/11 and revenge of the Bush put the final nails in the coffin.

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        There’s too much to explain how fucking awful bill Clinton is and how hard he fucked us from NAFTA to the crime bill and so much in between. So laugh your ass off to this and see you in a few hours.

        https://www.iheart.com/podcast/299-the-dollop-with-dave-27979491/episode/700-bill-clinton-with-james-293125259/

        Also the Democratic supermajority killing Bernie when he was winning the vast majority of popular votes of the Democratic primary made it clear to many that the Democratic party isn’t ever going to work in their interest or budge a fraction left of enabling conservatives. There’s just zero evidence that he wasn’t going to win, but there was plenty that Hillary was much less popular.

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          Jesus Christ some jackasses podcast isn’t a source. This dumb fuckery is why Americans deserve what we’re getting, we’re a bunch of belligerent dumb fucks listening to other dumb fucks like they know shit. Bernie got barely half the primary votes that Hillary got. It wasn’t even close. Bernie was popular with progressives who didn’t register Dem or vote in the primary. Y’all are too stupid to understand first past the post or the spoiler effect or the way the two party system means you have to vote for the lesser of two evils or you are explicitly condoning the greater evil. If you wanted Bernie you all should have registered Dem and voted for him in the primary but you didn’t, nevermind that Bernie isn’t even a fucking Dem and the idea he’d get the party nom was ridiculous from the get go. Fucks sake the Bernie bullshit is literally Russian propaganda and I’m tired of hearing idiots repeat it.

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    Guess who signed the bill to tear down regulations on media companies that made such awful, blatant dishonesty more difficult?

    This belongs in leopards in eating faces.

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    Oh, so you’re gonna give a call to action then? Maybe designate a day for a national strike? Call out individuals most responsible and push for their impeachment? Call for boycotts of companies? Anything like that?

    No? Just general words and a subtle wish that things will magically get better?

    Ok, thanks Billy.

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      Can’t be a day, any protest has to last until the desired change happens otherwise it’s a party.

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    I understand the criticism of Clinton. I would also appreciate it more if people from ALL parties, especially the GOP would step up for basic human rights and if they would write such letters

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    Bill Clinton tweet: Everything Slick Willy should say

    Angry Leftists: Bah! You suuuuuck! Fuck you Clinton! BlAARghh! DEAaaaaaTH! Deth to ALL!1

    Me: Huh.

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      It’s a nice tweet and I agree with it but I’d rather he was testifying about what he did on Epstein’s island

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        I would like him to testify in front of competent people. I mean with the republican party questioning him do you really think they’re going to ask him anything interesting when so many many answers would likely be: “Hey I was there with half your political party, just ask the president and all your colleages who were there.” I do hope the contempt goes through because if it goes to an actual court you might get some names.

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        My prediction of his testimony of Epstein Island: “I saw, but I didn’t partake.”

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          Well his definition of having sex is when someone else finishes you. He doesn’t believe it’s sex if you finish yourself off. Nothing prior counts. So take that as you will.

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        Just wait for the ‘contempt’ power play. If the House follows through, Clintons get discovery! Oops…

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    And then Trump read the message and was like “dude, I have to be good now!”…

    Is that all they do in the opposition? Writing letters? No wonder you guys are all going to hell.

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    Words are great and all, but please put your money where your mouth is, Bill.

    You don’t have to go Unabomber but funding has impact, too. If anything, it’s the only language besides violence that works here.

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      No no. Other people pay politicians to have opinions, silly. They don’t fund political movements, they use them to gain leverage in elections. Duh /s

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    He had to release as statement because he’s the embassador of Epstein Island, Trump’s former position.

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    Indeed. But he still has questions to be answered and his victims deserve those answers regardless of the ‘moral’ high ground he perceives to take. They all do.

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    Fuck Bill Clinton, he might have done more to get us here than any president before Trump, but how is this finger wagging? It’s critical of Trump but is directed toward the general population.

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        I wouldn’t be so sure. Dubya didn’t turn the democrats into a party that could lose to Trump.

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        There’s plenty of blame to go around. I think Clinton turning the Democrats into a bunch of corporate tools was a response to Reagan.