President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn’t expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn’t commit to the same for Greenland.
“Something could happen with Greenland, I’ll be honest,” Trump said in an interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that aired on Sunday. He said that “we need that for national and international security,” but he added “I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it.”
Put NATO forces there so the US would invoke the mutual defense clause.
There are already NATO forces there. Specifically Denmark and USA
Well the US forces are the issue, right? Denmark has neglected Greenland militarily for years. Under the NATO treaty they don’t HAVE to respond to an attack on a member so if there were forces from other members there it would greatly increase the likelihood of a joint response.
US Sends Troops to Greenland to Defend it From US Troops
Or see how fast they withdraw from NATO and form a new alliance.
According to Article 13 of the 1949 NATO treaty, members can declare their withdrawal, but the document does not provide for a member to be expelled. The only measure the treaty provides to sanction serious violations of the alliance’s principles is a joint decision by the other member states to restrict or suspend cooperation.
The US military is such an essential part of NATO that if they don’t withdraw, a new alliance should definitely be made.
Trump sounds more like Putin every hour.
Why is he so obsessed with Greenland?
Easy target from his perspective. Would draw Nato resources away from Ukraine, so his boss would be pleased.
When Trump does something incomprehensibly useless from an American perspective, always ask “What’s in it for Putin?” and you may find you get answers.
Mineral resources, especially since the ice is melting. They don’t believe in global warming but they accept that the ice cap is melting. Then there are fishing rights around it. Finally it would control a chunk of the arctic ocean at a time when the north ice cap is melting.
They believe in global warming. They just say they don’t because they’re lying psychopaths who would kill millions for their own gain.
Theres a few reasons but it would be a huge military advantage, not that I agree with it
He probably thinks it’s actually green.
Only if that kid was a better shot.
I consider the US our enemy. Even if we come to an agreement at this point, it’s the duty of every Canadian to backstab the US when such an opportunity arises. There can no longer be peaceful co-existence unless the US is split apart. Every Canadian employed by an american employer should start stealing IP and sabotaging operations. This is just the beginning.
This is plain dumb and the same rhetoric that got America into its fascist me first bullshit policy in the first place.
The system got hijacked. The people speaking out are getting arrested and deported to a foreign death camp. The US will course correct, or need help doing so.
Sit your militant LARPIng troll ass down and let the adults figure this shit out. A war is not good for either country, nor is a need for constant paranoia like you’re suggesting.
“Im gonna punch you but calm down. Stop acting tough. Punching me back will only escalate things. Thats how we got here in the first place. Its your fault Im gonna punch you.”
This is why the world hates Americans right now.
There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American citizens. Why would he add the equivalent of another California to the voting population. No Canadian will ever cast a vote in favor of the political party that took their country from them.
What version of statehood is he envisioning here?
The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.
It’s only rumours so far, but according to the new president nobody is going to vote ever again, soo
They already answered this question. They would use procedural rules to prevent Canadian votes from mattering, the same as they have done in the US in many states.
There’s no way he was ever serious about it, but i can’t for the life of me figure out his plan. Only thing i can figure is that it was some kind of negotiation tactic involving Greenland.
And this is where you’re not paying attention. He is serious. He has always been serious. Canada’s leaders are taking the threat seriously, so why would you think he isn’t serious? He is unstable, and taking marching orders from Putin.
I need a lot more evidence before buying into wild conspiracy theories about our top level of government being compromised by foreign countries. Canadian politicians are not taking it seriously except for how they can leverage it to their benefit. Carney won because of it, so I can’t blame him.
It literally is not a conspiracy. Trump is saying he is serious. Multiple govt officials in Canada are taking it seriously. Just because you refuse to believe an insane person would do something insane, doesn’t make it a conspiracy.
Because Putin promised Canada to him, in exchange for Alaska.
And you only care what the people think if you think they can hold you accountable in some way. Without elections, and with the largest military in history willing to fire on American citizens, the opinion of the people is irrelevant.
The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.
I thought that’s the plan?!
That’s because they know the fix is in. Here are the receipts
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
The fact that he’s even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.
Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them
Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.
That’s not what a russian asset would do…
Bullies don’t attack people they’re scared of.
Translation:
Canada would probably put up a fight, and bullies only pick on those too weak to resist.
I’m not Canadian, but it’s seems obvious to me Canada would definitely put up a fight
A lot of Americans would also put up a fight on the side of Canadians
Put up a fight?
Nah, more like encourage our trash to attack, then slide in right behind them.
We’d let the canadians help us give them what they deserve.
Greenland is part of Denmark, so attacking it ought to trigger NATO Article 5. I’m pretty sure NATO ex-US is capable of putting up a fight too, even if the 50k people who live in Greenland themselves could not.
This comment alone put more thought into the strategic situation of Greenland than Trump ever has.
They’re going to use the cia. Trump would use proxy forces to invade under the guise of assisting a rebellion. He can find an opposition political leader, declare him the leader (in this case, declare Greenland to be soverign from Denmark) and then absorb greenland.
Nope, not possible.
Everything would leak worse than hegseth because they all think it’s stupid and have more friends in Europe than here.
The CIA would love to bring this regime down, they hate the worthless inbred southern fried junta more than anyone.
That’s true, but how many leaks have you seen regarding the CIA’s operations in Venezuela?
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-cia-venezuela-maduro-regime-change-plot/
The US recognized a right-winger as the rightful president of Venezuela and even had most the US believing it. No leaks at all.
Because they wanted to take down Venezuela.
Taking down Greenland doesn’t help them and it strengthens Trump, which is bad for them.
They want him weak and helpless, a failure at their mercy.
Expect that.
The Geneva Convention is gonna get another page
If we need Greenland so bad how is it we’ve been just fine leaving them the fuck alone since forever?
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US could do that, sure.
But I bet it’d quickly find out just how much of its power, safety and bravado is due to being located in a geographically safe and isolated area with no real hostile armies trying to end them from the other side of the border.
Just how much of that willingness to fight comes from invading foreign underdeveloped territories across the sea, with little chance for the fight to make its way back to US cities and US civilians.
Easy to start fights from the comfort of a distant home, sending only military lives into the far away battlefield.
Something Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East can’t claim, as they have to contend with potentially bad neighbors due to all sorts of reasons.
Go ahead, poke the bear, FAFO.
This is the real story of American ‘exceptionalism’ Its how the US was able to accrue so much wealth during WW2.
Its easy to sit on the sidelines when you’re geographically isolated and not #1 though. The world order has changed (in fact they’re the ones who reshaped it) and now they are desperately trying to force their way back to the 1950s because they had unbelievable leverage and a incrediblely disproportionate share of global wealth following the war.
In fact, I believe that’s in part why we’re seeing a backslide in human decency. A lot of less educated folk see that their parents and grandparents were more prosperous when they were racist, misogynist and transphobic and are acting as if going backwards in that regard will bring back the ‘good times’.
Trump doesnt care. In fact he’d welcome an invasion on his soil to attack the dems. Saves him from trying to convince the military to arrest citizens for not bending the knee.
Every word from this Orange Turd is treason. Their needs to be a trial and he needs to never see the light of day again.
He also said he’s not sure if we need to uphold due process in all situations. I’m willing to concede the point in his case if it means we can hang him tomorrow.
And y’know what? The US would still lose.
