My poor gam.
I’m only 4 months into Linux, and apt is my comfort zone. Checking out other distros that use something else has me running away like:
pacman is very fast and handy. The (in)famous
pacman -Syuhad you system completely up to date in record time.Sometimes I miss its speed and simplicity
And here’s me with my
yayzypper dupI never used opensuse but I know zypper from that one suse parody song.
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YSK/PSA: If you’re on Mint, Mint’s
aptis not Debian’saptand while they work similarly for common use cases, they diverge pretty quickly beyond that. Both are installed by default but Mint’s takes precedence.*Case in point: I was looking for which package - specifically one that was not yet installed - contains a certain command line tool and Mint’s
apt searchdoes not find it. Debian’s does. **On the other hand, Mint’s
apthas way more subcommands than the default one, which have been useful on occasion.* Mint’s is at
/usr/local/bin/aptand Debian’s is at/usr/bin/apt; The default user$PATHputs/usr/local/binbefore/usr/bin.** FWIW, the tool is/was
spongeand it’s in themoreutilspackage.Just use aptitude and be happy.
Disclaimer: while aptitude was originally designed to replicate the apt CLI interface, I have never run the search command through it. The TUI is marvelous, though.
Nowadays apt supports deleting dangling config files with
apt purge "~c"so no need to have aptitude for that feature. However,aptitude why <package>is pretty handy, and if you bump into dependency problems aptitude is quite capable of suggesting valid solutions.Disclaimer: I’ve never used aptitude’s TUI.
I need to have aptitude because the TUI is boss. Even if it had less features than apt, I’d still prefer it. It’s nice to know it’s ahead of the curve, though.
However, aptitude why <package> is pretty handy
Dude/dudesse, what the hell is this and why have I never heard of it? Sounds really useful on the manpage, I hope I remember it next time I need it. Thanks! 😊
sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y
=
sudo dnf update -y
For most systems. If you can get apt you can get any of them.
The feds don’t want you to know this but you can just put “-U” at the end of
sudo apt upgradeand it updates before upgrading.what the fuck
For me, pacman is my comfort zone. Fast, reliable and easy to handle. But apt was it for a long time as well.
This gif makes me irrationally angry.
I almost used this godzilla gif to illustrate my point instead. Maybe you’ll enjoy it more.
See, now why did you have to ruin these last few days of peace for me like that?
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Don’t panic, apt+flatpak does everything very well, if all you need is a working computer. If you need a hobby, try nix or guix
Exactly what I feel when I look or have to interact with anything that doesn’t have pacman 😅
I have to admit that I love the “pacman” pun quite a bit, which is nearly enough by itself to convince me to try it. One day. Maybe.
I can’t lie, that’s one of the reasons I moved over to CachyOS a few months back. It’s not the only reason, but it’s been my favourite distro for sure that I’ve tried. It’s the first one that really felt good to me.
It’s really a great distro, I’ve been using it fulltime on laptop and PC for over a year. Best one I’ve tried so far and for some reason it’s less buggy than EndeavourOS was for me. The only thing I don’t like about it is the name.
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I use it everyday and I still hate pacman’s flags with a passion
They S is for Sync. You’re syncing a package from the repos.
But what about
pacman -SsSync search? P.S. I like pacman, just that this combination of flags is a bit weird for me personally.You wouldn’t do that, its improper syntax. You’d do #pacman -Qs, Query local packages -> Search from within this set.
But I do, do that regularly. Why is it improper?
I’m just going Based on the man page I linked. s isn’t listed as a subflag of S so i’ve never thought to use it.I just checked that again and I’m totally wrong. Disregard me I guess.
Everyone knows how to read, not everyone will feel comfortable reading the flags.
I’ve been trying to decipher this for a literal day what does this mean?
❌ apt update && apt upgrade
✅ pacman -Syu
Zypper
sudo zypper dupAll day every day.
Suse scares me.
Nix
What about LFS with make
when the
sudo nixos-rebuild switch
The humans are chocolatey right?
And the worms are
winget.
Yay
pacaur
apt today, apt tomorrow, apt forever
Apt my beloved Ɛ>
Pacman is great until you forget to delete your lock file because you interrupted an update and wonder why it isn’t working.
APT is user-friendly, but a pain to automate in scripts.
the real winner is compiling from source. 😎
Portage gang represent
After using dnf a bit:
- All the default answers are backwards to me, so
dnfquite literally ignores my input. dnf searchdid not show, by default, if a matching package is already installed.- Perfect perhaps for newbies, since dnf asks you trice.
yeah… arch is not leaving me anytime soon. The option to
makepkgfrom source a few custom packages is very neat.- All the default answers are backwards to me, so
Thanks for the weekly reminder to update.
I can hear the SYYU sound it makes chasing them
Don’t use yy unless needed (very corner cases), the mirrors thank you :)
Tbh i never checked what this means, found it somewhere in the arch wiki when i was trying out arch
-y only syncs the repository metadata that’s needed, while -yy forces a full refresh. This is very rarely needed and requires quite a bit more bandwidth from the mirrors
I didn’t know what was dnf so I made a search and found out it replaced yum as the redhat package manager in 2013. I did not know about yum either. Last time I used a redhat-based distribution, Mandrake, the package managers were rpm and urpmi. Tempus fugit!
I am just going to mention yum so that I can get downvoted. (We use it at work.)
If I’m not mistaken, dnf is to yum as yay is to pacman. Edit: don’t shoot me I’m relatively new to arch based distros, AUR is scary.
yay
No contest. Apt-rpm is superior in every way.
SuSE people can sit down too. I’ve seen inside that mess.
Why is it superior?
SuSE people can sit down too. I’ve seen inside that mess.
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