What a cowinky-dink!

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    Sounds like a win by default for the plaintiffs, if I were the judge. Somehow, I doubt it will go that way, or that easily, but in a sane or just world, any destruction of evidence, whether purposefully or by negligence (by not having the information backed up in duplicate), is a straight-up tacit admission of guilt.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    System crash my ass most of these agencies have support deals with Cloud providers for their data-storage. What we really need here is evidence of which Cloud providers they are contracted with and sue them for the information.

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      Even then, 14 year old me still figured out how to recover my data from the disk after my “system crashed”. Took a trip to the library to Google it and grab a list of CMD commands.

      There’s just no way that data is magically gone from cloud or system failure.

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      don’t need to sue. fire off a subpoena at the agency for a list of all cloud data supporters, and then fire off subpoenas at them.

      Discovery is a bitch if you’re trying to cover shit up, and yes, you can subpoena 3rd parties if they have data you need to prove your case. (For example, security recordings from neighboring properties that look in the direction of whoever you’re really going after.)

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        Worst case, “too bad, the data is on the disc, here’s a forensic service. You’re the government, it’s not financially onerous to order this”.

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    ICE is claiming the computer ate its records the day after it was sued for abuse.

    404 Media reports that after ICE’s Bridgeview Detention Center outside Chicago was sued October 30 for allegedly abusing detainees, the agency said that two weeks of video footage that could have shown how immigration detainees are treated in the facility was lost in a “system crash” on October 31.

    “The government has said that the data for that period was lost in a system crash apparently on the day after the lawsuit was filed,” one of the lawyers representing detainees, Alec Solotorovsky, said in a Thursday hearing about the footage, according to 404 Media. “That period we think is going to be critical … because that’s the period right before the lawsuit was filed.”

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      When a system crashes it doesn’t just start randomly deleting videos. HDD recovery should be possible, where are the backups?

      100% BS.

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    Here’s how I see this.

    “They did an illegal thing!”

    “Well, they are required to videotape everything with body cameras. We’ll just look at the video”

    “We don’t have the video”

    “You didn’t have the video last time either. Or the time before that.”

    “It was destroyed.”

    “Well, then you can’t prove your case.”

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    government lawyers said that “we don’t have the resources” to keep preserving surveillance footage from the detention facility. In a seemingly flippant remark

    Just how many billions of dollars would it take to back up your shit?

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      When you’re dealing with round the clock FOIA and subpoena requests, because you have a whole department designed to violate people’s rights, it really does add up

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    It’s so crazy that all these government systems just happen to fail before someone is murdered or evidence is requested.

    They really should hire a better IT team.