My driving school had 2002 Corollas. Had a lot of problems to get the „feel“ for the clutch and after I mastered that the most challenging thing for me was starting on a hill using the handbrake. Auto-Hold these days is truly a blessing :)
Most people not in the US. We just call it ‘driving’
It’s not just automatics anymore, but also
- CVTs, especially forneconoboxes that used to be manual
- electronic shifters, sort of automatic
- automatic, with more and more gears
- EVs don’t need a transmission
The thing is there’s no longer much of a price difference and manual is no longer the efficient choice
The change is coming for you guys as well. I’ve travelled to Colombia on a regular basis over the past 20 years or so, and transmisión mecánica has gone from nearly ubiquitous to almost exclusively an econobox option. Maybe performance cars as well I guess? Wouldn’t know about those
Here in Spain it’s estimated that automatic transmission is between 30 and 50% of cars. No official numbers have been released.
So most people have learnt with a clutch. Definitely everyone who has had their license for more than 10 years.
Still own one. Was looking at going to a Kona EV but sounds like there’s a wide spread reduction gear issue with the model I was considering, so maybe not.
What is this, some kind of poll to get the average age of Lemmy?
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My first car was a 1972 Toyota Corolla! I fondly remember driving my first pet, Max, on good ol’ Pine Lane, where I grew up, to go see my mother Joan Hart, who retook her maiden name after divorcing my father!
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99% of people in my country…
I believe the better question here is “clutch pedal” as automatic cars still have a clutch, you just aren’t manually booting it.
But yes I did learn to drive stick in a 2002 Mazda Protege.
Everyone? How else are you going to change gear?
I think a more interesting question would be:
How many people learned to drive in a car with a manual Choke?
Had a dirtbike with one, that counts right?
Lawnmowers count? lol
Not me, but I learned to drive a 1967 tractor before driving a car, and you have to manually preheat the glowplug.
That is still the standard way here. Automatic is something we still leave to those for who a gear is too complicated.
And EVs.
1993 Isuzu rodeo.
The fuck is a clutch? Oh, manual gear? I learned at driving school, I think all of them use manual cars in Brazil, since they’re way more common than automatics
Amazing shitpost.
People really went directly to the manual vs automatic debate without realizing it has nothing to do with that.
Flying over my head. what does it have to do with?
Evey car has a clutch, including automatic. It is so the engine can keep turning without the wheels spinning.
Basically, if your car has a neutral, you have a clutch.
That’s not quite correct, every ice car has a mechanism to disconnect the engine from the wheels.
Manuals typically use a clutch to archive this. For the longest time automatic transmissions haven’t though, instead they use a torque converter. Which also is a type of clutch obviously, but not what people usually refer to when they use the term clutch.
There also are automated manuals and dual clutch transmissions, but those are more modern…
Too lazy to find sources rn, but if anyone wants to know more I’ll provide some.
An automatic transmission also has many clutches inside to release or grab different parts of the planetary gear assembly.
But yes, not what people think of when they say “clutch.”
Which also is a type of clutch obviously, but not what people usually refer to when they use the term clutch.
So many internet arguments come down to this sort of thing.
Cvt?
I guess it’s a CV clutch?
Cvts usually use a torque converter (which is a type of clutch but distinct from what you think of as a clutch when talking about a manual transmission).
Fluid dynamics in a turbine or torque multiplier with the stater. Turbines uses the fluid to spin up and they usually have a lockup clutch for cruising. Torque converters are usually smoother but don’t deliver the full power right away, which is why some prefer a manual. Double clutch trannies are another beast which I love on my vw. I would assume the cvt takes the place of the clutch in the torque converter?
As someone who learned driving using a manual transmission car, automatic transmission is much better for city driving, I hated having to be careful with the clutch in stop and go city traffic, my left leg would get so sore after a while, plus I’ve stalled the engine more than once by letting the clutch go too fast.
Yeah I finally went over to the dark side because of bostons horrendous stop and go traffic
Of course I’d use transit whenever I could. However I lived to the east and had to drive through Boston to get home from anywhere else. There were times when it took hours to drive just a couple miles: I couldn’t deal with manual transmission for that
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