A decision isn't expected to be imminent, one source said, but debate within the administration has shifted recently to more deeply exploring how and when the act might be invoked.

Talk inside the White House about invoking the act has ebbed and flowed since Trump took office again in January, said the five people, who include the senior administration official, two people familiar with the discussions and two people close to the White House.

But the debate inside the administration has shifted recently, from whether it makes sense to invoke the act to more deeply exploring how and when it might be invoked, both people close to the White House said.

  • TuffNutzes@lemmy.world
    124·
    2 months ago

    Insurrectionist traitor skirts punishment for treason against the United States, becomes president. Again ffs. And proceeds to invoke the Insurrection Act as a prelude to implementing martial law and becoming a full fledged dictator.

    All because the Dems didn’t want to “seem political”. Mmmmkay.

    The world is laughing at us.

      • LePoisson@lemmy.world
        18·
        2 months ago

        Because the Dems allowed open treason to fester. Trump literally should have been executed for crimes against the state.

        Instead he was let off with zero repercussions and allowed to pardon the insurrectionist mob. Terrible consequences have ensued and will continue on.

      • TuffNutzes@lemmy.world
        16·
        2 months ago

        The Dems put ‘decorum’ before sanity. The DOJ in the new admin should have gone hard after Trump and his henchmen on January 21 2021.

      • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 months ago

        There is no low the Republicans can stoop to that won’t result Murc’s Law being a thing.

        The Republicans could be at the shoving people onto trains phase and there will still be a certain type of individual trying to blame the Democrats for not stopping the Republicans…

        • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
          12·
          2 months ago

          If a gang of criminals is causing trouble all over town and nothing is being done to stop them, I’m gonna be mad at the criminals and also mad at police, prosecutors, and judges for not doing their job and stopping these people

    • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
      6·
      2 months ago

      Why don’t all criminals just run for office? They can’t be sentenced then, that would seem political

      • Furbag@lemmy.world
        12·
        2 months ago

        Oh no no, you misunderstand.

        You must also be rich and white. It’s not political to lock up poor or minority political candidates, even if they aren’t criminals.

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      2 months ago

      Laughing is the wrong word. The world has lost all respect for us. But also, most Americans have lost all respect for their government as well.

    • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      2 months ago

      Nah, the dems are complicit. Anyone with 2 neurons to rub together saw this coming. The reason they didnt prosecute is because theyre busy trying to find ways to secure themselves in the new regime, not antagonise the new god-leader. The Dems are straight up evil, only differentiated from the fascists by the fact that theyre too scared to actually do anything impactful.

  • thesohoriots@lemmy.worldEnglish
    67·
    2 months ago

    The White House expects that any potential invocation of the act would be met with swift legal challenges and ultimately land at the Supreme Court.

    So, an unsigned 6-3.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      41·
      2 months ago

      Or more likely bumping it back to a lower court while only addressing one small part of the issue, while making no stay on the behavior so they can continue while it takes years to wind through the courts and eventually not matter when they have already usurped power.

  • Pondis@lemmy.world
    52·
    2 months ago

    Civil war is looming more and more everyday. If I was American I’d be so scared and angry right now.

      • LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        19·
        2 months ago

        Yup.

        Terrified, angry, disappointed, despondent, hopeless, disgusted, in disbelief.

        So many fun emotions! 🩷

        Note: if you are FBI and reading this: insert the next floppy labeled ‘how much of a great, capitalist loving, good Christian fascist ultra nationalist I am’ to learn more!

        • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          2 months ago

          Nah, im ready for the roundups. Fuck Trump, fuck the administration, and fuck all the corporations and organizations that are deepthroating his gangrenous rot. Each and every one of you will get your under the new regime just as i will get mine. The american people failed to act when you had a chance, and now were all going to suffer for a very long time. Shouldnt have licked the boot.

    • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
      3·
      2 months ago

      I’m Canadian and I’m scared. I have little faith the American people will successfully revolt. Who would lead?

  • Redditsux@lemmy.worldOP
    29·
    2 months ago

    I’m pretty sure Trump is going to use it by 2028 or just before it, in a prelude to declaring martial law. Right now they are trying to escalate conflicts in order to have justification. When they don’t have it, I assume there will be false-flag operation to trigger one (see January 6th).

      • Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        2 months ago

        From your lips to god’s ears my friend.

        That reminds me, where the fuck you at god? You’re just gonna let this bullshit continue?

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
        1·
        2 months ago

        I don’t think they’d abandon their program if Trump kicks the bucket. This is bigger than him. If the right loses power during this mandate, they may not regain it for a long time and they may not be able to criminalize the left to the point of preventing an FDR 2.0 being elected in the near future.

  • HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world
    25·
    2 months ago

    This gives me such revolutionary war vibes. The “fathers of the revolution” were not revolutionist, they did not want independence from Britain, but wanted thier legal rights upheld. The monarchy feared what they might do and so sent soldiers after them labeling them as revolutionist. Thier message then became one agianst the monarchy, tensions continued to escalate and well, revolution.

    There is not an insurrection, there is not armies of rebels fighting to bring down the federal govermemt… but start a war agianst people and eventually they will stert defending themselves, then we will have a war.

  • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world
    20·
    2 months ago

    Did anyone else see that weird interview on CNN with Steven Miller clamming up à la Mitch McConnell after he mentioned that Trump would have “plenary authority” i.e. dictatorial powers?

    Unless I’m mistaken, plenary authority is granted to the president when the Insurrection Act is invoked.

    So… Is this an attempt to push that through quickly now that the cat is out of the bag?

        • D_C@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          2 months ago

          Still won’t happen. The child rapist in chief has done many shitty things -in general- but recently to the american people and their constitution yet fuck all, FUCK ALL, has been done to him or his Gestapo cronies. Fuck all…except a, haha, ‘protest’ a few months ago.

          If they can’t do more then go outside once every few months to wave a few signs and have a nice stroll then a civil war will never happen.
          It just won’t happen. It won’t. Most are obviously too lazy, too complacent, too scared to lose their mollycoddled way of life to put any effort in. Well, other than tut about it on the internet. And maybe make a meme about it. Possibly throw in a few "See, we told you this would happen"s along the way. The demented geriatric tangerine is the usa’s new king and almost no one has the spine to do anything about it.

          • Brkdncr@lemmy.world
            7·
            2 months ago

            Some Americans aren’t as excited as you are to engage in the bloodiest civil war yet seen that would likely drag the world into ww3.

            • D_C@sh.itjust.works
              4·
              2 months ago

              You definitely need to be more dramatic and about all these fairytales of americans actually standing up to the orange buffoon.

              Anyways, tell me, why will the world get dragged in to ww3 (lol, as if) because of a civil war that will never happen?