this whole article might as well just be this emoji: 🤷
Known bug.
Out of scope. Won’t be fixed.
Do we have a tally somewhere of people killed by Teslas? I bet they racked up quite the high score up until now.
warning: there’s a lot :/
There’s some disagreement about how Tesla’s safety compares to other brands though, with one study giving it the highest fatal accident rate and others giving Tesla a good safety score.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/01/11/tesla-fatality-rates/
The number of fatal crashes and the safety score are not the same measures.
Insurance actuaries know the correct answer and Teslas are among the most expensive vehicles to insure, along with Dodge Ram pickups for obvious reasons.
The disagreement doesn’t really seem like a contradiction from my reading. The studies that give Tesla good marks are doing it based upon crash test results, which Teslas tend do pretty well on. The studies that give Tesla bad marks are doing based upon actual statistics from the field, and the numbers don’t lie.
My assumption would be there’s a few factors for this. It could be partly due to the sort of people who drive Teslas are more likely to crash them (this is probably why Buick is also so high on the list - too many senior drivers). Though my hunch is Tesla’s self-driving implementation is a major part of it.
I was gonna say that given that there’s about 40k traffic deaths per year in the US, 700 deaths from Tesla seems low. But I looked up deaths over distance and Tesla is in fact in the lead with 5.6 deaths per billion miles. Kia and Buick coming up behind them with 5.5 and 4.8 respectively.
Is that more or less than any other car maker?
“You’re crashing it wrong”
They didn’t put it in crash mode before the collision. 100% the owners responsibility.
The article is from march and the accident happened in November 2024.
Well thankfully only those buying cyber trucks are maga… so darwin’s law I guess
Or stupid tech bros/MBAs with a lot of money in their pockets and not much in their brains for common decency. At least this explains the rare cyber truck I’ve spotted here in Mexico.
They’re fucking everywhere in Denver for some reason. I see at least one a day.
I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a Tesla
I know two uber-like drivers, but they’re on a better contract. One owns an EV and uses it for work: 100% tax credit that forces him to live a spartan existence and put his tax refund toward a better life. His peer, though, makes 100k+ doing fucking uberlyft work.
Combine those two and you’re sleeping in a fantastic car.
Just make sure you get a used one with the lidar rig.
Hang on I don’t understand what the tax has to do with anything but whatever.
Electric vehicles aren’t unsafe it’s just Tesla’s stop equating the two things
Wcgw when there’s no physical override?
There’s an app for that.
That’s pretty normal in a car crash, no? The frame crumples and the doors often get stuck.
Except in these, there are no fucking handles. So, even if you tried. Nope. No power no open. And with the hardened glass that would normally allow a rescuer to just shatter a window… Nope.
Enjoy dying in a fire.
Yeah, facts would be useful here, rather than speculation
- maybe the frame was deformed so the door couldn’t open
- maybe the door was locked
- maybe the button or solenoid was broken or unpowered
Maybe the lack of mechanical latch is to blame but we don’t know that yet
It’s called a fail safe the clue is in the name. The failure mode of a mechanism is it’s safe mode.
In cars with mechanical locks they require power to be in the locked position in the unlocked position a solenoid loses power and a mechanical spring pulls it into the unlocked position. So when it fails and loses power the default is to unlock. Sure the mechanism could become damaged and bent out of shape but we’re talking about a sliding bolt here, something that can be manipulated with a mechanical lever like a key.
Cars unlock the doors during a crash and this has been the standard for quite some time.
Most modern cars automatically lock doors when you reach certain speed (like 20km/h). I checked and automatically unlocking door on impact is a separate feature that may or may not be present in a car. So I think you won’t be able to open most modern cars from the outside after a crash. The only difference is that you will open other cars from the inside without issues while in Tesla you have to use other door handle in front seats and it’s really complicated to open them from the back seats. Is that right?
which is so stupid, who would break in your car at 20kmh?
I always thought the opposite would make much more sense, locking doors when you’re below 10kmh and unlocking once driving
Firefighters always struggle more to open locked doors (duh) as much as I hate those, I don’t think it’s something specific to it.
I guess they don’t lock/unlock constantly because that would be annoying in stop and go traffic.
Also probably really bad for solenoids and locking mechanisms.
I think that’s the big reason. Lots of wear
Yes, they don’t. What good would that be for the intended purpose, e.g. coming to a stop at a red light.
