Many Democrats believe the White House is bluffing and insist Republicans will bear responsibility for a shutdown in the public eye because the GOP controls the government.

The Trump administration is expecting a government shutdown come Wednesday and there are no current plans to negotiate with Democratic leadership, according to a senior White House official.

“We’re going to extract maximum pain,” said the official, granted anonymity to discuss political strategy, adding that Democrats “will pay a huge price for this.”

The comments underscore the White House’s belief that Democrats will be blamed for a shutdown and its ripple effects, which could include mass layoffs across the federal government.

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    The Democrats messaging, as always, has been abysmal on this. They should have been hitting the airwaves since the last vote preparing public for this to happen and - rightly - putting the responsibility on the GOP who owns both sides of congress and the presidency.

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        Of course, and yet SOME effort from the Dems would not go unnoticed. Politics today is so overwhelmingly based on vibes today and to not try to influence that is political malpractice.

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          Not that the Democrats do good things often enough. But even when they do. Almost no one notices. It would absolutely go unnoticed.

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    I say this as a government employee: shut it down. I don’t want to be looking for a new job in Trump’s economy, but we’re long past the point where we can fight this authoritarianism without risking anything.

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      Me too, as hard as a government shut down will be on my family it’s necessary to preserve liberties.

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    Don’t we go though this every time? I could swear “we” settled on “the public blames the party that forced the shutdown” not the party in power.

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    If Democrats are smart they would be out there 24/7 telling the public that Trump has refused to work with the Democrats and remind them that Republicans have the votes to go out alone per Trump’s orders.

    And then let Republicans Mike pence themselves in a lose lose scenario and then go back on the air 24/7 doing the Scrubs I told you so dance.

    Because right now, I literally have conservatives at work saying to everyone, including government people, about the pending Democrat shutdown.

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      You know those same people would be saying the same thing even if Democrats were shouting it from the rooftops that this is Trump’s and the Republicans’ fault. Odds are good that they wouldn’t even see any information on it in their conservative bubbles.

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        I know but you know why they’re saying this right? Because everyone in their bubble is out there saying this from the top, especailly from the top all the way down the the bottom of the barrel 24/Fucking 7/365.

        Something that Democrats absolutely sucks balls at.

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    Let’s be real. They likely will blink. The dems almost as a rule always have just enough turncoats on hand to ensure the Rs get everything they want and they themselves can’t ever get anything done.

    I expect nothing from them. But im open to being surprised.

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      Trump is using more layoffs during the shutdown as a threat to get rid of employees that don’t “align with his political agenda“.

      But this isn’t much of a threat to the Democrats, especially because they all know he’s gonna do some bullshit like that anyway, and appeasing him now will just embolden him.

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        Yeah, he’s already played the mass RIF hand. He’s going to try to make it happen with/without a shutdown.

        Also, anyone slightly aware of things knows a shutdown doesn’t cause mass layoffs, that’s all Republicans.

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      The cognitive dissonance is almost unbearable. I thought conservatives hated the government? Shouldn’t they be celebrating a shutdown? They are literally getting what they want.

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    While the Democrats surely will be blamed (they have proven time and again that they are too incompetent to spin this correctly), falling flat will have worse consequences.