The suspect is still at large - officials earlier said they found a high-powered rifle in woods near where Kirk was shot.

Also, “high powered rifle” essentially means “not a 22”.

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    Cartridges with “transgender and anti-fascist” writing on them were found.

    Why would somebody smart enough to evade capture, and dump the weapon in the woods, leave a cutesy little note on the cartridge clearly identifying their political beliefs?

    Why is this like the 3rd high profile murder that seems to be tipping us towards civil war, where the killer has allegedly done this?

    How did that old man end up in handcuffs if this is the guy they were looking for? Why did it take so long to release this image? So many questions.

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      MAGA will use this transgender piece to put all transgender citizens in camps. They already have the camps made. It begins here.

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      Early reporting on stuff like this is almost always wrong, so take it with a grain of salt. We have no idea who is spreading that info and it could very well be intentional misinfo.

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        A week from now it won’t matter that the reporting was wrong because it’s already fact in the minds of their audience.

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          “A lie travels half way around the world while the truth is still putting on its pants.”

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            Investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk, according to an internal law-enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation.

            Without the actual text, for all we know, it says “we all have rights”. I would be entirely unsurprised if a right-wing agency head decides that it warrants looking into left-leaning individuals, then someone leaks it to the press to start the dissemination of that narrative that it was proved to be a left-wing shooter before anyone actually caught him.

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              I know it has since come to light that he was alt-right, but anything written on evidence would likely be to throw off the investigation if one was smart. Print an AI manifesto of everything you’re against to throw off the scent to buy time. If I were ever to do such a thing, mine would all say “LOL!” Or “boner” or something. But that’s just cause I’m juvenile, not psychotic, and thus would never really do such a thing in the first place.

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      Cartridges with “transgender and anti-fascist” writing on them were found.

      Unsurprisingly, barely any of the media is reporting that correctly.

      That’s how it was described by government officials when leaked to specific news agencies and kept extremely vague. “Transgender and anti-fascist” writing could mean “we have equal rights” or “gun control is safety” for all we know, but now the narrative is out there for them finding “evidence” that the perpetrator is {insert some trigger word for groups that the right already thinks is trying to destroy them}.

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        They’re dogwhistles for the 3%-ers and proud boys or however they call themselves these days to start hunting leftwingers.

        Keep yourselves safe, people!

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        It’s interesting how the word “ideology” is just a spooky word used. Most people hearing this and getting enraged don’t even know what the fuck it means. It’s like asking a maga person to clearly define the word “economy.”

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      How did that old man end up in handcuffs if this is the guy they were looking for?

      That was a long time ago, relatively speaking. Well before they had collected any video whatsoever.

      Why did it take so long to release this image?

      It takes a good deal of time to acquire and scour through all the video available. They initially thought they would be able to identify this person without releasing images, and probably didn’t want another lionization as with Not Luigi. I guess that didn’t pan out.

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      Saw that, too. I am reserving my thoughts on that until more information comes out.

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      Speaking of the devil. Did any award money in the Luigi case actually get distributed? If not, are there reasonable conditions not met yet?

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        I saw a theory the other day that there was no tip from an McDonald’s employee. The authorities might’ve used some illegal surveillance to find him and just said it was a tip from an employee to avoid acknowledging that.

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          Which is funny because his lawyers will definitely ask for this info in discovery and it will come out anyways. Also if they found him using illegal tech they could argue it in his favor.

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            The existence of “stingrays” (fake cell towers used to surveil protesters and others) was made public due to legal discovery.

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            That’s why they were trying to push the McDonald’s narrative, they probably just couldn’t find a patsy to take the heat there.

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        No, the McDonalds worker didn’t get the ‘reward’ money because they called local police instead of the CrimeStoppers number when they reported it.

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          Ain’t that a shame. Who could have guessed that would happen? Not the opportunistic class-traitor, that’s for sure.

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          Kash Patel is hiding them because the deep state he said he’d dismalntle told him how easy it was to make him and his loved ones suffer and disappear.

          Not sure where.

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            But isn’t he in power now? He should have direct access to them correct? Why isn’t he releasing them like he said he would? This doesn’t make any sense? Unless hunters laptop? Where is the laptop?

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        It’s what he needed to do to protect our second amendment rights. Somebody should make a crucifix of him hanging on that is made of guns. Trump will probably beat everybody to market with the merch though. Maybe a KirkCoin scam…

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      How hilarious would it be if that wasn’t the murder weapon and the shooter planted it ahead of time as a distraction.

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        Considering the photos from the stairwell don’t show him with a gun, that’s an acceptable theory.

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          New photos show a backpack, room enough in there for a disassembled Mauser 30.06.

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            I’ll be honest, I’ve never disassembled a Mauser, but I can say, just the wood furniture alone on my Remington 721 .30-06 would not fit in a backpack.

            Maybe the specific model he used is different? I dunno. My mares’s leg would fit in a backpack, but not a long rifle.

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              I’m also curious about how long it takes to pull it down to backpack size.

              And the way they were talking about it being found, no mention of the backpack, why would he take the rifle (parts) out of the backpack and leave them in the woods if they were already hidden in a backpack? Why not just … keep walking with a backpack?

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      Even if you really need that $100,000 reward, they’ll screw you out of it just like they did that person who reported Luigi Mangione. Collaborating with fascists won’t even get you your thirty pieces of silver.

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        Collaborating with fascists won’t even get you your thirty pieces of silver

        30 pieces of lead look kind of like silver if you squint hard enough while bleeding out from them. Just saying. It’s not like you get nothing from collaborating with fascists.

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      Honestly, this grainy photo could be five or six guys I do know. (Except they were all here yesterday, so couldn’t have been, but yeah.)

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      I kinda hope it’s some unabashed fascist with a wildly incriminating conservative digital footprint. I want there to be no question how off the deep end this guy is. I want all of these soon to be deleted tweets about leftist violence to be gotcha moments to these fuckers.

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        I would love for it to be a Groyper just to have every conservative awkwardly ignore that the past couple days happened and scramble to cover their tracks.

        Edit: They have now been named as Tyler Robinson, and the evidence points to them being very much in-line with Antifa 😔

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          Allegedly the casing had “Hey fascist, catch!” written on it- so we’re gonna have another day or so before there’s any sort of defining knowledge about his ideologic inconsistencies. The damage is already done though, they’ve been using this as a call for war for the past 48 hours, the lie has made its way all the way around the world before the truth had a chance to be identified in any meaningful capacity.

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            CNN reporting that

            “Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read ‘Hey, fascist, exclamation point, catch, exclamation point. Up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol and three down arrow symbols,’” [Utah Governor Spencer] Cox said.

            And that (among other things):

            Robinson at the [family] dinner said “Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate,” according to the relative’s account related by Cox.

            https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-death-09-12-25?t=1757688390480

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            He put the Antifa ↓↓↓ on there too, though. Along with another casing with the lyrics to Bella Ciao. I can’t see someone that’s not in the anti-fascist space thinking of putting those markings onto casings, honestly.

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              ““Hey fascist! Catch!” followed by an up arrow symbol, a right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols”

              That’s a Helldivers 2 reference, specifically for the “Eagle 500kg Bomb” stratagem. It is not the anti-fascist symbol, he could have used three diagonal down to the left arrows if he wanted to, but he did not.

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                Looks like the story keeps changing, it was being reported as “three down arrows” a few hours ago, now, as you say, “an up, right and three down arrows” which I absolutely agree is a Helldivers 2 reference.

                Just like the supposed “transgender ideology” that turned out to be the TRN stamp from Turan Ammo, I daresay the details of the other engravings will change a couple more times before they actually release pictures of them.

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              That’s what’s being reported, yes. But law enforcement also called such engravings “transgender”, which is wholly unsupported by any reporting, so I’m going to hard side eye what law enforcement has to say about it.

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    This guy does not appear to be in the woods nor holding a rifle. They arrested an old man who also didn’t have a rifle nor was in the woods yesterday.

    Maybe they’ll just arrest every gun owner within 100 miles of where it was 1 by 1.

    They said the person they suspected went out of the woods into a neighborhood, yet these photos aren’t from a neighborhood. So where did they come from? (Looks like a staircase at the school maybe?)

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    People need to stop celebrating the shooter! I’m absolutely disgusted and ashamed by their actions. Charlie Kirk was doing nothing but sitting there giving a speech. This was in the middle of the day, there were clear sky’s and the sun was shining directly on Charlie, as if he was chosen to deliver an important message. Than the shooter shot at him. I’ll say it as it is, nothing was between Charlie and the shooter that warranted this.

    So how could the shooter miss the shot at Charlie Kirk’s large ass head and hit him in neck instead! Embarrassing, do better on the next fascist.

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    Looks like the image release means they weren’t successful in their own investigation according to their statements.

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    They won’t give you the reward money, everything is just another lie to get you to cooperate