Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Philadelphia’s DA have warned troops they’ll face charges that Trump can’t save them from if they violate residents.
As Donald Trump floats expanding his authoritarian military crackdown to liberal-led cities beyond the nation’s capital, troops deployed to carry out his anti-democratic schemes might be at risk of prosecution themselves — and the pardon-happy president may not be able to save them.
Thus far, by my count, two Democrats in states that may find themselves targeted have vowed to spur local or state prosecutions — which couldn’t be overturned with a presidential pardon — for anyone who violate residents’ rights if and when the Trump administration expands its troop deployment.
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Tbf we’re talking Illinois democrats here, not national democrats. The latter have already proven themselves to be a new species of invertebrate, but the former haven’t and from his rhetoric there’s a nonzero chance Pritzker means business.
We’re also talking about random military members rather than anyone rich or powerful. I’d be willing to believe they could face prosecution
Yep. Let’s start making examples of the most powerless outreach of conservatism, since Taco and the cons in Congress seem to be beyond reach at the moment.
Standing back and just letting these people run roughshod over everything is only further emboldening Taco and the rest of the conservatives.
I want to see people in government standing up to these pieces of shit, even if they are only “doing their job”. FUCK THAT NOISE - if you are doing something illegal and immoral, YOU should be held to account as well.
Ever heard of spineless coward Erik Sorensen, who talks about how fucked up Trump is and then votes with Republicans on basically everything?
No, you see Trump learned his lesson. The lesson being that Democrats aren’t going to do shit so he can be as brazen as he wants.
Maybe we should have given Democrats one branch of government.
Maybe they should’ve tried harder to get any branch of government.
According to Serinus, if you expect the Democrats to earn votes instead of being entitled to them, you’re not American enough.
As we all know, expecting politicians to do as we voted them in for is a bad thing.
There was no hard evidence. He cleverly made sure of that.
Open carry is illegal in IL.
“911? There’s people walking around with rifles.”
Masked people.
911 every time.
They should start with whoever gave the order to murder 11 people off the coast of Venezuela. And then work their way down to everyone who chose to follow that order.
I don’t think that’s a state-level crime.
Yea, that was a war crime.
Is it a war crime? There’s no declared war. I think it’s just a regular murder in international waters. I think the boat was registered in Venezuela so they should bring charges against Trump and whoever fired the shot/missile that did it.
When a murder occurs on the high seas, the primary basis for legal authority is “flag state jurisdiction.” Under international law, a ship is governed by the laws of the country where it is registered, known as the flag state. Article 92 of UNCLOS establishes that a ship on the high seas is subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of its flag state. The vessel is treated as a piece of that nation’s territory.
Other legal principles can create overlapping jurisdictional claims. The “nationality principle” allows the country of which the alleged perpetrator is a citizen to assert jurisdiction, regardless of where the crime took place. This means a country may have laws allowing it to prosecute its nationals for serious crimes committed abroad.
Another basis for jurisdiction is the “passive personality principle,” which allows the victim’s country of citizenship to claim the right to prosecute. This principle was asserted by the United States following the 1985 hijacking of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro, where an American citizen was murdered. Even though the crime occurred on an Italian-flagged vessel, the U.S. asserted its right to prosecute the perpetrators.
War crimes also included deliberate attacks on citizens and property of neutral states, such as the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. As the attack on Pearl Harbor happened while the U.S. and Japan were at peace and without a just cause for self-defense, the attack was declared by the Tokyo Trials to go beyond justification of military necessity and therefore constituted a war crime.
Yeah it was a war crime. The US and Venezuela are at peace and there was no just cause for self defense.
Fair enough.
I appreciate you two talking this thru, as I didn’t know, but now understand a bit more.
Right, the earlier comment is well-meaning but makes no sense.
Rubio will be the scapegoat for that one
Pritzker should dispatch Illinois National Guard to shadow each out-of-state Guard member, 1:1, all with body cams streaming online
Wonder if after a few transgressions he can declare them a terrorist organization.
Do or do not. There is no “threaten”.
They have to commit the crimes before you can arrest them. He’s saying if you do get deployed in Chicago don’t fuck around or we’ll hold you accountable. Yeah, have to actually see follow through, but this is more of a warning shot
This is exactly what they should do.
It is among the things they should do.
Good. If we cannot get the felon in chief, let’s start going after those that are carrying out his criminal activities.
They threaten to apply the law that’s supposed to be applied to everyone equally anyway?
I’m sure they’re shaking in their boots, if that’s a threat and not just… normality.
I get that things are concerning and stressful right now, but read the thing and think about it - they have to actually commit a criminal act to get arrested. He’s trying to head them off from doing it before it happens. The governor of California didn’t say something like this, but the governor of Illinois is saying it.
The instant boots touch the ground they are in violation of posse comitatus.
Arrest them all for treason and treat them as traitors were treated when it fucking meant something.
They should.
Threaten yah that is all the Dems are good at.
Says the people currently NOT impeaching trump for abusing his power
Governors lack the ability to impeach the President.
Yeah, and so does the whole democratic party apparently
Correct, Republicans control Congress so the only way Trump could be impeached by Democrats is with Republican support.
We had too many idiotic and lazy voters and so Congress is run by conservatives. Too many people think the Democrats are “just as bad” as the conservatives and now here we are.
merrick garland was too weak or was told to be
Kudos to Gov Pritzker.
which couldn’t be overturned with a presidential pardon
Rofl
