Work from home, buy less stuff, eat less meat, and most importantly throw all billionaires feet first into a wood chipper.
The problem is real. the past few years it’s been raining as much as snowing during polar night in northern Norway.
Sure but walking home is gonna do jack shit, we gotta focus on the wood chipper part
Work from home. You know, naked from the waist down during zoom meetings, etc.
When it’ll be too bad they’ll say something like: “you mean poors! YOU have destroyed climate, so NOW we do not allow you do own anything and we’ll monitor and restrict your use of everything to make sure you live in misery and stay unimpactful, while we can chill on our yachts and SAVE the WORLD. Be THANKFUL to us, the world would BURN without our action.”
The line can’t go down, and if climate itself dare to stop the growth, they better stop climate change.
The problem is that ordinary people can only do so much to prevent climate change, any real impact can only come from above, by goverment regulations and the ultra rich following those regulations and doing their part, unfortunately the filthy rich control the government and they would rather take 16 min flights in their private jets, the planet be damned
But big strong car goes vroom vroom!
The rich decided they will just relocate to cooler zones and leave climate refugees to die. That is why the US is trying to take Greenland and co-opt Canada. Also why border security is getting so much attention. Climate refugees will be a major issue in the future between rising seas and unlivable heat zones.
Nah but we’re getting rid of the NASA satellites that monitor this so we won’t see climate change anymore
“If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any,” Trump asserted.
He’s so smart
“Global warming” was always a weak formulation of the problem, and “climate change” is even weaker. I prefer “Anthropogenic runaway global heating” which has the handy acronym ARGH.
I like it when people use ecocide. Like ecological murder, destruction.
Words are important!
Good word, but needs more connotation of “suicide” as well.
“ignore it until you can’t anymore”
Lol. A few years ago we watched conservatives ignore COVID until they were literally dead.
So they ignored it until they couldn’t anymore.
No, brother. The dead ignore everything. Not even the death of our sun will wake them.
Ignoring something requires intent.
Does a mountain ignoring a man mean that the mountain has the capacity to take notice?
Ignorance is simply entropy by another name. Information is energy, and ignorance is the absence.
Definition of ignore: refuse to take notice of or acknowledge; disregard intentionally.
A mountain doesn’t ignore anything because it doesn’t have the capacity to be aware of anything to then choose to ignore it.
The harrowing thing for me about “Don’t Look Up”, was that you couldn’t tell if it was about climate change, or Covid, or basically any other far-right political denialism.
More horror than dark comedy, hard to laugh after watching it. Such utter helplessness after all other attempts to stop extinction from happening fail.
Makes you wish you first have to raise a revolution – deal with those elites awash in absolute power and then get rid of them from ever ruling – before taking on the task of combating the actual horror about to happen. But right now and what is infuriating is that those bastards in power are trying to squelch the voices rising up to pull them down.
I assumed it was covid at first, but then I realised how long it takes to make a movie and it came out too soon… It was just that accurate.
Funny how a lot of criticism was about how it was “too on the nose”, but really, it still seems to have gone over people’s heads
The ending is what really got me.
They all just sat down and kept trying to live life the way they always had, like going back and making everything the way it was just for a little while was all they could do in the face of obliteration.
I don’t know about anyone else, but the way that scene is drawn out, as the viewer, I was just expecting some deus ex machina shit to happen, like a volcano would divert the shockwave, or they would survive under the rubble, or the whole thing was a fever dream… And they all just get obliterated by the disaster they all knew was coming and no longer preventable. It’s how I feel living in a house with AC, and having two cars in the driveway. I’m contributing to the climate crisis, but as an individual, I have zero impact in what is happening. The people with the power to cut back and actually make an impact on the climate won’t, because they only have that power though greed above everything else.
Anyway, sorry if you’re depressed after reading it. When we hit +1.5C, all the cool people can come over to my house for a nice dinner before the food supply collapses and the famine sets in.
Yea, it’s the ending line
“We had it good”
that really got me. The resignation that there’s just things out of your control even if you go down fighting.
I don’t get that criticism. Being on the nose and over the top is a stylistic choice that can be really wonderful. I mean look at Bong Joon-Ho’s movies. They are all extremely on the nose. It seems like critics just have a smug preference for subtlety and ambiguity
Being on the nose and over the top is a stylistic choice that can be really wonderful
Right, but it can also be obnoxious to beat over the head with the same concept over and over. ]
It seems like critics just have a smug preference for subtlety and ambiguity
I don’t know why you ascribe smugness to it, someone that watches movies for a living is obviously gonna prefer films that don’t waste time telling the audience something more than necessary.
Since the audience seems to miss the same point over and over again, it might be less than necessary
Or they might be the wrong audience, a little of column A and B. Of course the arts are about communication, which requires effort on both parties, so each side bears some of the blame. But “we need to create something so obvious that nobody will miss it” just ends up producing people who are more oblivious. The computer simplification trends of the 2000s and 2010s resulted in a generation that knows even less about technology.
I was sure that would decimate their voter base, between those who died and those who were left to see the fall out.
I’m surprised there has been so little ecoterrorism in response to climate change.
Even though I understood what you meant and think you mean well, I have to say that I hate this word. Terrorism refer to “mass killing innocent civilians” to terrorise everyone. Those referred to by that word are not killing anyone, they are merely destroying inanimate objects or blocking roads… Nobody is terrorised by them, nobody fear for their life after their actions. We should call them “ecoactivists”, or something like that.
We’re trapped on a burning planet with superstitious dictators committing holocausts in broad daylight and there are forum mods/admins who find it within themselves to stop you from advocating online to ixnay a few fascists or billionaires
Fuck retards who vote for fascist lunatics.
Okay but why the r-slur
Eh, at this point can we just agree that word doesn’t apply to people with actual disabilities? It hasn’t been used as such for decades. Maybe we just agree to only use it to refer to morons, the same way “moron” was once a medical term.
Didn’t the words moron and imbecile follow along a similar line of etymological evolution that the r-word went through? Yet imbecile and moron are considered acceptable offensive words to use. To be honest it’s why I don’t really care that much about the r-word itself.
Soooo many other words, just pick a better one.
Seriously why are you acting like using words is so frigging hard.
There’s so much worse shit going on in the world as is the entire point of the discussion and this is the hill your choosing to die on here? Mere inconvenience of learning to just use words?
There are many hills to die on, but I have standards and those standards are important. Just pick a better word next time and move on, it’s not that difficult.
But why? Some people are still hurt by it’s usage, we have other words.
Are people actually hurt by its usage or is it another case of “protecting” people who don’t really mind?
I mean I know people hurt by it personally so I don’t use it, to each their own I guess. Surprised that’s a hot take though
speaking about hot takes…. So Why are you still going on about the inconvenience of just changing words? Just learn new words and be done with it. Can’t be that hard. Kids can learn new words every day. I believe in you.
Reddit is a dumping ground of hate generated by AI eating fuel to wreck the planet further
If it’s not heat waves, it’s several days of hard rain, dirty water swirling round your hips, and the constant threat of leptospirosis or rat shit disease.
I modded r/collapse for a little under a year. Joined the sub back in 2012 or so. I still read it, though I no longer participate.
We are absolutely fucked. I have been through the stages of grief more times than I like to admit. My goal right now is to hurry my way through the stages when I bounce back and get to acceptance. Every once in a while something will trigger me and I will spiral for several days.
Once you get past the grief, the anger, the bargaining, the acceptance makes things clear. Our world is run by people who simply don’t care. Their short life spans give them no ability to think long term for our planet or even our species. All they care about is the right now and fictional numbers going up.
“The Earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses.”
~Utah Phillips
Inb4 pedant quibbles that “the planet itself is not dying.” Yeah, but we and our fellow creatures are. It should be understood that is what Mr. Phillips meant.
The ruling class is feeding us all into a planetary autoclave, just so they can hoard more wealth. And they KNOW it.
I think we also should consider the machine of civilization can’t be stopped once started. Steering it is a monumental effort. My best guess is they don’t care, or simply can’t alter the course we are on.
Yeah. The future is dark, no matter what angle you look at it from.
I don’t think humans will go extinct. We’re very persistent and very good at surviving. But I think there’s going to be mass death and forever wars over resources. I think our total population size is going to plummet.
We just don’t have what it takes to get enough of our species working together to address these large scale problems the future presents. Too much greed. Too much selfishness. Too much ignorance.
I wanted to go to school for this stuff, but conservative “values” have infiltrated every aspect of society is ways even most progressives take for granted and you get smacked down if you want to change anything. The only value they care about is Dollar Value.
Watching that sub collapse from the influx of people realising something was wrong with the world always amused me, I tried my best to stop people blowing up over Sam Carana posts, doomsday apocalypse predictions, the newest fad political posturing/doomsday devices.
There was a lot of great information there; it was pretty much the only reason I kept reddit around. Thanks for modding.
I read collapse for a good while. Same story. Just spiraling into depression and fear for the present and future. The worst part is not really knowing how quickly it will all go. If it was quick I’d just prepare for a life not worth living as things implode into anarchy. Starving or being killed by marauding thieves isn’t a great place to be. If it were longer term maybe buying a piece of land and preparing for intermittent utilities and food supplies might be an option. The not knowing is the worst part, and yeah, the willful blindness to just “get mine” while they can and ignoring how worthless it will all be when it collapses is mind boggling. No good having a million dollars to buy an apple when there are mo apples to be had.
“It’s only going to get worse.”
That’s the theme going forward for humanity. The older I get, the more I realize humans just aren’t intelligent enough, as a whole, to adapt to a world changing at an ever increasing rate, requiring a larger percentage of humanity to work in unison to accomplish goals.
It’s looking more and more like we’re a failed experiment.
Our selfish survival instincts that allowed us to get to where we are now will also be our downfall.
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I work with a lot of conservatives (the American kind that deny anthropological climate change and anti-vax/mask). They aren’t ignoring it anymore - though there are plenty that do because stupid. They’re just handwaving it away as some natural cycle of the sun and “there’s nothing we can do about it.”
They just engage in whatever mental gymnastics that avoids the thousands of years of collective scientific knowledge and analysis that says they’re wrong so they won’t a) get the stink of being a liberal tree-hugger on them, b) be inconvenienced by any required effort or sacrifice on their part to help mitigate it, c) have to pay a single cent for it.
“Its a natural solar cycle” is literal fossil fuels climate denial circa 2003 when An Inconvenient Truth came out.
Also doesn’t make any goddamn sense for multiple reasons, the primary being that it only changes the temp by 0.1°C maximum, and as were currently working our way through the ‘grand solar minimum’ of the cycle from 2020 to 2053, and so far - line still goes up.
Pretty charts and science (which they will likely ignore): https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-incoming-sunlight
At least one of the conservatives I know believes the dinosaurs died in a great biblical flood. This is powerful “you can’t reason somebody out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into” energy.
We need to do a better job teaching kids physics. Imo since trump laid off so many scientists my thought would be to send them all to schools and churches as guest speakers for science.
Most Americans thinking in Fahrenheit are gonna think this doesn’t look so bad.
Just multiply by 9/5 and add 32 and the horror becomes apparent.
EDIT: added rest of formula because I’m an idiot
Yeah 50 degrees still seems kind of chilly
