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    Since when did keeping kids off of porn sites become everyone else’s problem and not the problem of parents? Oh, right, that’s just a bullshit reason to make accessing porn more difficult and a security risk since they can’t just make porn illegal.

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      It’s not even that. Porn is just a bystander here. The first step is put in place a very large framework for making some form of verification mandatory on arbitrary services and sites under the guise of whatever (terrorism, child protection, and extremely niche content are good candidates). Once it’s in place, it becomes the new normal very quickly.

      Then, as the government, you suddenly have the power to extend the provision of said system to whatever the fuck you want. That’s where things gets funky, and not the good kind.

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        And look at the money.

        The reasoning for this is to eventually lock the internet down completely to put up fences and paywalls everywhere to every single site so that even if you pay for the privilege of using the internet, you will have to pay more money to actually use the internet.

        It is all about controlling you and taking every single penny they possibly can out of your pocket.

        All of the tracking, all of the identity verification, all of the invasive watching every single thing you do on your computer and your phone, everywhere, all of the time always, is all about milking you for every single penny they can.

        Even though they are insanely rich, beyond the imagination of any human being that has ever lived in the hundreds of thousands of years of humanity’s existence on this planet they still don’t have enough money and they will still never be satisfied with how much money they have.

        The fact that there are free websites where people can congregate and communicate and have fun with each other without paying them for the privilege galls them.

        It grinds their heart and soul the way watching a dog get shot in the head at the end of old yeller does to a normal person.

        These people are evil, and we need to stop them.

        When it comes down to it, we may have to rise up and slay them.

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            I’m not saying that we should start getting pitchforks or anything right now. I’m just saying that like, they need to know that that is an option and that if they keep pushing us, they’re gonna start painting targets on their own back.

            I mean, that’s two billionaires down in a year, and they’re still ramping things up. Next year, it’ll be four. The year after that, it’ll be eight. And in like 15 years, we won’t have any billionaires left unless they fucking straighten up an act right.

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        That’s when the databases become huge targets and the government officials get their everything leaked online. They voted against privacy, they can enjoy the stones they threw in the glass house they forced themselves into.

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      It’s more than that, they want to

      1. limit who can post and make money off porn, and no, this isn’t to support small creators at all unfortunately
      2. build massive blackmail networks
      3. build massive sex work websites with curated AI models and videos

      And yes, any time ANY ONE EVER says, “Do it for the kids, just think of the kids,” when it is not something DIRECTLY and CONSENSUALLY helping kids, but instead FORCING ADULTS TO DO THINGS, is being manipulative every time.

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        The only time the phrase “do it for the kids” is actually valuable is when it’s someone asking you to grill hot dogs at a picnic.

        If it’s a politician saying it, “do it for the kids” is slang for “bend over and take it up the ass because otherwise you’re a bad person”.

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          Yes and again, your example is an action of directly and consensually helping kids. The kids directly get the hot dog you made. They consent to eating the hotdog. They aren’t forced to eat it. You aren’t giving the hotdog to a third person who will then eat it and then by extension later help a child in some other way. Which btw, they should be doing in the first place.

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          I’m gonna be the odd one out, I guess.

          At a picnic, it’s likely that you’re not grilling just for the kids; and likely that grilling means you’re excluded from other activities.

          Activities like playing games with said kids.

          Bringing them into the picture instantly becomes manipulative, where you can make the same argument (that they need to be cooked, and someone has to do it,) without it.

          Edit to add some background: I’m an uncle, but not a father. At family picnics, my bro and parents like to use my nephew and nieces as a guilt trip so I let them task dump; even though we’re organized enough they’re fairly equitable (including watching the kids as a task, even if it’s more fun.)

          SiL in particular is egregious.

          It’s always manipulative, even if when the child’s wellbeing is directly involved, it’s maybe called for. But that really shouldn’t t be the case at a picnic.

          Most parents don’t even realize they’re doing it- ie asking you to cover their summer vacation (and not reciprocating.) at work.

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      I think the narrative is now that “parenting is hard” and you can’t expect parents to do it right by themselves. Parenting used to be easy so parents didn’t need any help but now it’s just too difficult and government needs to help.

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        Parenting used to be easy so parents didn’t need any help but now it’s just too difficult and government needs to help.

        Ahh ok, so that means they’re for parental leave, and free daycare/preschool, right?

        And surely they’ll do something to lower the maternal and infant mortality rates, right?

        And they’ll definitely make sure that we’re teaching proper sex education, and making contraceptives free and widely available in order to lower the rate of unwanted pregnancies, right?

        Right??

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    From here

    It’s all part of the plan. Only this time they let the cousins across the pond do the first significant move.

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      The line about “educators and public libraries” gives away the real game; this isn’t about actual pornography at all.

      The “pornography” they’re referring to here is any form of media that portrays LGBTQ+ people in a neutral or positive light.

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        The age old problem of “if you remove rights from criminals, you can just change the definition of crime to encompass the people you don’t like”

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        Don’t forget people of any color but white having any kind of fun. That’s shameful, too!

        🙄

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    wow, they actually, properly, fully did this shit. Amazing.

    So glad I left that shithole. My friends are aparantly using VPNs, which is the same fucking thing I had to use to access WIKIPEDIA in TURKEY.

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    I’m confused, can’t literally anyone just generate an AI selfie to submit for the censorship?

    A couple news cycles ago was just talking about how AI video and image generation has progressed so far that it is really difficult for any system to tell it is AI in some cases. This seems like the perfect usecase for that.

    Or does it need to link to a real person ID or something?

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      Selfie doesn’t work, you need to turn your head left and right to follow instructions.

      But yeah, there’s a bunch of avatars that will bypass it

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        In states that have started this requirement (at least in Virginia), they do have ID as an option, but the default is a face scan. I don’t think an ID is better. In fact, it’s even more personal information being exposed.

        I don’t know the technical terms, but my internet provider sometimes routes my internet through Virginia, and even though I live in Wisconsin, I’m forced to adhere to Virginia law online because of it. It’s very annoying. I

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    He knows that video games where you can pose the character can bypass it, right?

    Iirc death stranding and a few others have been shown to work.

    Alternatively VPNs work.

    Or piracy.

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        I want to go full cyberpunk and get QR codes tattooed on my cheeks that will either crash the cameras or tell the recognition software that I’m a stegosaurus.

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    They just need to support alternate verification paths for people like him, and people who have otherwise been disfigured.

    They should sue for discrimination if steps are not quickly taken to support their situations.

    It’s funny how this turns into the gov needing to provide equal access to porn.

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    Not saying that he should have to do this – but I bet he could apply foundation+concealer to cover them up.