This Tesla Robotaxi demo video is a mess.
Watch as the car makes a left turn from the wrong lane, ignoring a red light. The safety operator steps in, and the car comes to a stop… right in the middle of the intersection.
Eventually, it completes the illegal turn after blocking traffic for 45 seconds, which raises the question, what exactly is the safety operator there for?
If the most relevant way to describe someone is “influencer”. Then everyone influenced by them is a moron. They are just a mega moron. It’s a safety hazard any of these vehicles are allowed on the road. Let alone, driving autonomously with no actual intelligence on board.
Paid shill for deathmobiles.
IKR? Shades of Ralph Wiggum.
It’s funny that nobody who follows influencers refers to themselves as an “influencee”.
Another word for an individual: ‘data point’
It didn’t just “Run a red light”, it downright attempted a left turn in a lane meant to drive straight through. They’re just lucky that the incoming traffic was stopped when it happened or they might have been t-boned.
How come nobody honk? Are they used to this nonsense already?
What exactly does honking accomplish though?
Waking up the safety operator perhaps.
I know but in my area people will be pissed and be honking not that I agree but I’m surprised how calm people are with this nonsense of being live beta tester.
It didn’t “run a red light”. In the video, the lights were green when it entered the intersection.
But yeah, it should not have tried to make that turn from that lane.
Not related to self driving, but other shitty car design.
I had a Nissan with a CVT before it was widely known they were garbage. I hit the brakes to avoid someone that ran a red, and the CVT went in to some protection mode and left me and my family stuck in the middle of the intersection for 2 entire light cycles before it’d move again.
Dealership just kept saying it’s fine and it was protecting the CVT from damage after going from throttle to brake quickly. I don’t give a fuck about the CVT, I care about the squishy bits inside the cabin.
After it did that again and the power windows stopped working the same day, I traded it in for a Mazda with a proper transmission. 248k miles later it’s still great.
Damn shame that CVTs are so janky because it’s the only non-manual transmission I’d consider. But reliable CVTs that don’t do fake shifts are hard to come by.
The eCVT in my wife’s Ford C-Max is an absolute dream. It’s so smooth and helps the car take off much faster from a stop than my 350Z, despite having 100 less BHP. Nothing beats the feeling you get from immediate torque when you don’t have to wait for the revs to build. Problem is that it also has a 75% failure rate after 100K miles. She’s at 120K now and it’s still going strong, so she was in the lucky 25%.
I had a Honda with a CVT and it was pretty bulletproof. Never skipped a beat.
Must also be pretty hard on the tires
Can’t say I’ve noticed a difference. The tires wear at a normal rate. The traction and stability systems are very good in this car, despite it being over a decade old at this point. Wheel spin is well-controlled.
Bud. Nossan always was known as trash. You just didn’t do enough research before buying it. No offense. As a dude with buddies that have The last sports cars from Nissan. 300z turbos. Nissan has been garbage for decades.
Nissan CVT has had its fair share of bad press, but CVTs in general are good to go, and more specifically, Toyota’s CVT is a good piece of gear. I don’t doubt your story, but it’s got me real curious about what the issue is. I can’t imagine a scenario where hard braking somehow disables the car, but I know “safety features” in abundance are a thing.
Yeah they apparently ran some scans on the transmission and everything checked out.
The 2nd time I drove straight back to the dealership since I was nearby and they scanned again without shutting the car off and still showed no issue. All I know is it’d act like it was in neutral for about 2 minutes. Then it’d barely creep forward even at 4000 rpm. Going to park and back to drive didn’t help. Restarting the car didn’t help. After about 10 minutes of slowly getting better, it’d be back to normal.
How much was the influencer paid to say this?
Hey you know what, lets just throw a million or more of these things into the real world right now. The sooner we can rack up the body count the sooner we can get grifters to scream into the zeitgeist about government control or whatever. Idk let tesla fuck up their value and live in infamy
As dumb as this tech is in its current state, it still seems safer to me than human drivers. So far they’ve had very few accidents. Human drivers will do a dangerous maneuver to get in front of you then at the red light they’ll get out of the car and try kick your ass.
They also have very few cars. There’s like 10 or so of these robotaxis. If you grab 10 human taxi drivers and follow them around for a few months, you’d also expect them to have on average 0 accidents.
I’m not talking about just Tesla. There are quite a few companies that have been operating driverless cars. I think waymo has been doing it for years at this point.
If it were just Tesla I dont think they’d be safer than a human driver.
Any car with an automatic emergency stop feature is safer than an “average human driver”.
That’s a big problem with all these self-driving car statistics: Self driving cars are usually very new and outfitted with top-of-the-line features, while the “human driver” they are compared to drives a much older and cheaper car, often without many of the security features that new cars are required to have and often not even maintained properly. Doesn’t really say much about the driving capabilities of a self-driving car.
Sadly, actually comparable statistics are impossible to find, since accident statistics aren’t usually collected on a per-car-type-and-age basis.
I’ve been thinking about exactly this… you could probably get an apples to apples comparison, by comparing only a specific model year.
IE, how did every 2023 car perform in the year 2024? Then, parse that by the vehicle’s price, or maybe by its propulsion type, maybe both. THAT would be how an honest study of the question would go.
Of course, Tesla knows that, they can afford really great data scientists. Makes you wonder why they run their obviously flawed safety study instead.
Tesla even has the best data source for a control group in house: those of their customers who don’t use autopilot.
They use identical cars with identical security features and Tesla has all the data. It would be trivial for them to compare those numbers.
As you say: there has to be a reason why they don’t go for this extremely low hanging fruit.
Oh, RIGHT, that XD
I dont have an issue with any of them except tesla. I dont trust their “camera only” method on top of their phantom braking and acceleration, plus whatever else can fail and prevent you from getting out of the car
yeah Tesla is by far the worst of all the brands.
Impressive, I have always wanted to die in a car accident thanks Tesla!
Safety operator was trying to eliminate the witness.
