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    11 days ago

    ill never forgive EA for destroying westwood studios and maxis,

    FUCK EA

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      EA is exactly the republican party. Destroy everything they touch with loads of bigotry and sheer incompetence.

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        Are EA bigots? They have always been the epitome of amoral capitalism in the gaming world to me

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        The bigotry is probably a new thing for them then because at least back in the day they didn’t give a fuck as long as it made money. Bioware games usually had LGB(perhaps not T, don’t remember any) characters, often as romance options and I recall racial justice being a theme in both Mass Effect and Dragon Age games.

        But I suspect the new owners don’t really want their games to infect anyone with the gays™

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            Ah, I didn’t know about that one because I could never get into Inquisition myself. Though it seems to have been well received enough as a game that perhaps I should try it.

            Part of me wonders if Krem received less hate than some other Ts in media because the Internet hate machine mostly seems to have it out for MTF rather than FTM folks or because he genuinely had good writing rather than being shoehorned in

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              Typically MTFs are seen as “misogynistic perverts” and FTMs are seen as “misunderstood lesbians”

              Neither are an accurate picture but one is far easier to sympathize with.

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                I wish it wasn’t so hard for people to see them as “folks just living their lives and not affecting mine in the slightest”

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                  Everybody affects everybody else. We absolutely do not live in a vacuum. It’s why libertarianism fails.

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      Good news is that EA self-destructed in the Saudi deal so a few guys at the top could fill their pockets one more time. The debt they loaded EA with will be paid by selling everything. There is no other way. EA can no longer operate and their IPs will go to different studios. Let‘s hope one or two of them treat the franchises a tiny bit more carefully. Maybe. Or it will all be AI slop. Time will tell. But the way I see it EA is toast.

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      Generals 2 was in the make. There was a promo gameplay video. They fucking canceled it. I’ll never forgive them for it.

      Litteraly everything they touch, they kill. Either they cancel it or it becomes a pay to win gambling platform which lacks actual content. Enshitification Assholes.

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      A year ago? People called it eight years ago with the Anthem disaster that Dragon Age 4 would be the studio’s last chance. BioWare was already dead, this is just the merciful last bullet.

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                There’s Divinity Original Sin 2 from the same developer. It doesn’t use the DnD system like BG3 but it’s very good.

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                  Thanks! I have played the beginning, the start is really cool IIRC on a ship, but then it just bogs down in an incomprehensible mess in a village in the jungle (or I’m too stupid)… Maybe I’ll try it again, at least I already have it!

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            Depending on how old you like your old school, you might enjoy Spiderweb Software’s games. They (mostly just a guy and his wife) have been cranking out RPGs since 1994. While all their games are superficially similar, there’s an impressive amount of narrative and mechanical variety. If you’re a D&D fan, especially the Forgotten Realms setting, you might enjoy the Avernum series. You’re a prisoner, banished to the underground realm of Avernum , never to see the light of day again. However, you are not alone, as the ruthless Empire which sentenced you has long enjoyed sending its dissidents into the subterranean realm. In fact, there are several factions which vie for influence, and the player can throw their lot in with any or all of them. In some ways, it feels like an old school Underdark module for DnD.

            Their other series are worth checking out too. In Avadon, you play a party of inquisitors (essentially) for a tyrannical, immortal overlord who exercises nigh totalitarian control over an alliance of 5 nations. Over the course of the game, your party uncovers a far-flung conspiracy against your boss for his abuses of power, and you are free to RP your characters’ reaction to this in a number of ways. Even further afield of that, the Geneforge series is set in a science fantasy world which blends magic with bioengineering and genesplicing. As an apprentice of the Shapers Guild, you have the power to change (or even create whole-cloth) life forms to suit your purposes. Brings created in this way are programmed (for lack of a better word) to be completely obedient to their Shaper, despite otherwise being sentient, free beings. The ethics of this form a large part of the tension in the plot. Mechanically, though, it means that the game is like a weird Ultima/Pokemon hybrid, where your party consists of your mad scientist chimera creations, who will protect your squishy gene wizard until their dying breaths.

            I first came across their work when I watched Jeff Vogel’s GDC presentation several years ago. It’s an hour long, but, if you have the time and interest, it’s a very candid look at how the sausage is made in indie game development. In particular, I appreciate that he is very conscious that the games’ visuals could at best be described as “quaint”, but that just encouraged him to lean into the writing even harder to make up the difference, since that cost almost nothing.

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      EA was bought by the Saudis along with Trump’s son-in-law. This Bioware closure likely isn’t the first we’ll see.

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          Yes, but the Saudi deal is a new wrinkle. It’s VC bullshit at its worst. EA was bad before, but it’s nothing compared to what’s coming.

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          They had announced their next game. I find it just a little curious that it happened now, so soon after de deal was finalised.

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          Lol. They already pull in $17B/yr, ~4B/yr profit, ~70% market share, <400 employees… Privately held…

          Gabe already has >9B himself.

          Why would they sell?

          Sure, some day they may enshitify, but by the time that happens, I’ll be able to reverse engineer and recompile my STEAM library on my home server.

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    Neverwinter Nights. Dragon Age Origins. Mass Effect. Knights of the Old Republic. It may all be considered unc slop now but man Bioware at its peak was some good times in gaming.

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            i keep having trouble with this because most of the people in my newest band are boomers. i have to remind myself that i’m very fortunate to find people who don’t fit stereotypes

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              You’re right, it’s good to separate the individual from the group. We obviously shouldn’t specifically blame every single person in that age group, but we know the generation, in general, took most of the wealth and opportunity, then pulled the ladder up behind them, denying it to the following generations. They also voted for most of the current politicians and policies that are keeping inequality high.

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    I’m guessing those new owners don’t appreciate stories where gay characters are treated with respect.

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        People keep blaming Saudi Arabia/Kushner for this, but it was going to happen with or without them.

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      They don’t care. That kind of thing would be censored locally but as long as it makes them money, it doesn’t matter.

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      Eh… It was written on the wall 12 years ago when EA bought Bioware.

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      I can still remember that feeling of anticipation when “Westwood” came on the screen. I haven’t felt that in decades 😔

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    Good lord everything EA touches turns to shit. Mass Effect is one of my all time favorite series and I credit it with breaking me out of just playing JRPGs. I was really looking forward to the next entry in the series, but the trilogy (there is no Andromeda in Ba Sing Se) will always be in my top games of all time and has enough of a conclusion to leave me satisfied

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    Bioware was already rotting in the mass grave where formerly successful studios they bought spend their last days being milked of any remaining collective goodwill in the gaming zeitgeist before being summarily executed.

    This was just them posting the obituary we all knew was coming.

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    My theory is that EA is actually secretly ran by Hollywood in a bid to get people back to watching movies and TV.

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        The Saudis who bought it don’t care about queer things, religion or morals. They only care about money.

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      Game companies are reading the tea leaves.

      AI bought all the ram

      AI bought owns all the GPU

      Any Game can be decoded and rewritten in fresh code via AI for the tiniest fraction of a salary. It will eventually be able to do it with performance.

      New IP could maybe, possibly be generated by some designer/artist types for the cost of a couple salaries.

      The client is in the enemy’s (our) hands.

      All games must go back to Gaming as a Service

      We won’t pay for gaming as a service.

      No new affordable tech is coming to drive the industry, all games will need to shift to online only, AI may get good enough to make games for pennies.

      The only part of gaming that survives this is indie developers that push past making shovelware with AI. AAA is cooked.

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    I suspected this would happen after the Saudi take-over. I haven’t played Veilguard, but i did see something about a non-binary character. I’d be very surprised if the saudi’s funded something progressive like that, even if it was poorly executed from what i’ve seen.

    Edit: Called it.