• logicbomb@lemmy.world
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    I’m not going to read Marjorie Greene’s entire statement so I might theoretically be missing some context, but what does she say here? “Communists aren’t Americans and need to be locked up.”

    That’s just McCarthyism. A bunch of nonsense we should have left behind.

    Even if her accusations of communism were accurate, there isn’t anything in the Constitution that says people who identify as Communists cannot be American citizens. On the other hand, birthright citizenship is specifically granted in the 14th Amendment.

    I truly, honestly, believe that a congressperson saying that AOC, who was born in NYC, isn’t American, is a violation of their oath of office. Marjorie Greene swore to defend the Constitution, and the Constitution couldn’t be any clearer about AOC’s citizenship. I also think that office holders who violate their oath of office should be removed from their office, and that it is the responsibility of other representatives to do so.

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      It’s all quite the opposite, in fact. From the time of the Revolution onward, there were lots of Americans fighting for the working class against the rich. It’s deeply rooted in our history, and America would never have developed the same way without it. The history books written since the Cold War have glossed over much of it, but it’s not something you can completely remove, either.

      We celebrate Veterans Day as the start of summer, and Labor Day as the end of summer. However, one of these gets a lot more flag waving and attention going on than the other. People literally died for both of those, but Labor Day is treated as just a day off.

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        I think you got it backwards. Labor (Memorial) Day is a real holiday that gets people out and about. Veteran’s Day is no big deal, almost no one gets off work.

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      and that it is the responsibility of other representatives to do so.

      Elect me to Congress and I will immediately begin physically throwing these people out of sessions.

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      This happened in 2021. Green was mad about the Green New Deal and AOC failing to “embrace our American ways.” Sorry for the NYPost article, it was the one I found.

      https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/marjorie-taylor-greene-calls-aoc-communist-at-ohio-speech/

      Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tore into Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a speech Saturday, calling the progressive Democrat a “communist” and criticizing the Green New Deal.

      “She’s not an American. She really doesn’t embrace our American ways,” Greene said about Ocasio-Cortez, who was born in the Bronx, according to Fox News.

      “You want to know why? She has something called the ‘Green New Deal,’” the Georgia Republican said about Ocasio-Cortez’s climate plan.

      Last month Green called AOC a “pathetic little hypocrite” for her comments opposing the US attack on Iran.

      https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-iran-israel-trump-maga-2088910

      Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, has called out Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democrat, for her criticism of President Donald Trump’s attack on Iran.

      Greene wrote on X, formerly Twitter, that Ocasio-Cortez, who had said Saturday’s attack was “absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment,” was a “pathetic little hypocrite.”

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        I don’t think it would be a violation of her oath if Greene said something like, “AOC’s actions were unamerican,” or even, “AOC’s actions are not American.”

        But even with this context, I think her saying that AOC “is not an American” is a violation of her oath. You might think, “Greene wouldn’t understand the difference,” but I think that language, as well as her insults, would not be allowed on the floor of congress, so we already have this requirement that they do understand a tiny bit of decorum. Why not expand it to all public statements?

        Honestly, I don’t think it’s healthy to allow our politicians to lie at all. But that would be even harder to police.

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      Find one of the morons that hasn’t made a game of forcefully violating their oath of office

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        That is a very serious issue. Most of the representatives, if they actually took their oath seriously, would be defending the Constitution. But they’re defending the major donors to their campaigns, instead.

        Now, if I was in that position, I’d follow my oath, and inevitably lose the next time, because my donors would back somebody who would play ball. This conflict of interests means that our current system automatically-selects in favor of corrupt people who don’t care about their oaths.

        So, I am sure you’re right that everybody, or virtually everybody, is an oath breaker. Only a small few can afford to refuse corporate money. We can never fix this problem unless we have significant campaign finance reform.

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        I know I deserve ridicule for watching this channel at all, but you should check out the recent Jubilee 1vs20 with Mehdi Hasan.

        They are well past being comfortable calling themselves fascists outright. Not the sarcastic ‘you called me one so I’ll call myself too’ but full tilt yes this is what they think.

        Tldw: Just skip to 22:00 for blue shirt guy.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S-WJN3L5eo

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          I saw clips of this and thought to post it on Lemmy, but I don’t wanna platform jubilee at all. But yeah it’s fucking crazy how fucking normalized straight up fascism is in today’s world.

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          Just a thing to keep in mind. These people are all trying to boost their YouTube channels or whatever. They’re creators, not random people. They have a vested interest to act in ways that make them go viral.

          That’s not to say it takes away from the vileness, in fact it intensifies it because it’s all the more deceitful to whoever tunes in. But that’s kind of how fascism spreads: it pretends to be normality until enough people believe it is… and because of that, it actually becomes normal — it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.

          So these people may not be anecdotal evidence that it’s being normalized, but rather they are actively doing the normalizing.

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    16 days ago

    Didnt she just vote to fund israeli “defense”? Shes no hero either, she is a funder of the genocide.

    • AOC? Yeah, she was pressured by Pelosi that if she didn’t vote pro-Palestine-Genocide that Pelosi and the Democratic party would unperson her and make sure she would never see a committee assignment in her life.

      Then they didn’t give her committee assignments.

      After Carter, the Democratic party ratcheted up all the lockdowns to make sure anyone actually interested in serving the public would be forced to eat at the kids table. Anyway, she changed her no vote to present after Pelosi talked with her in the back room.

      DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system!

        • Complicit with the genocide in Palestine by Ben Netanyahu’s regime (and by prior Israeli administrations) does make it pretty evil, yes.

          It can’t be reformed from within, and requires a great deal of reform (much the way justice in the US requires extreme levels of reform).

          Sadly, the only alternative we’re given in the US is the GOP, which is so much worse.

          TBH, given the current state of affairs, I’m having doubts of the capacity of the human species to civilize, at least at our current tech level.

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      I don’t think it was worth following that link. I’ve now been to Newsweek and X and I feel gross. So here’s the photo, if anyone else is curious. Pretty sure the article said it’s not real, but I was kinda just skimming for an image of weird toes, so I’m not sure.

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        Oh it is gross in many ways, no argument there, gross feet, gross tabloid / social media bs…

        But, this is apparently the state of modern US politics, and I wanted to give an at least semi-credible source, and not have to personally dive in to twitter to find the direct source.

        Also, this is, I think, the real photo.

        The fake one has MTG with only 3 visible toes on each foot.

        Here, hers are splayed badly, and her pinky toes are basically crushed under/behind the sandal and adjacent toe, but you can still make them out.

        EDIT: goddamnit.

        Yeah, here it is, the fake, based off of the above image, that circulated around twitter:

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          Ahh, thank you! So the truth is that she has webbed feet, which seems weird enough on its own that we don’t really need the 3 toe rumor.

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            Not…webbed feet.

            Webbed feet is when there is … webbing, skin connecting between your toes, like a swimming flipper, as a duck does, though its usually not that pronounced when it occurs in humans.

            Hers have been deformed by her wearing extremely poorly fitting shoes her whole life, and/or possibly just had fucked up toe alignment to some extent, to begin with.

            More like foot bondage, but less extreme, and self imposed.

            Think of how if your teeth grow in funny, you may need braces to better align them.

            Well, this is sorta like that, but where the shoes are functionally the braces, and they’re all fucked up and force the toes into an extreme configuration over time.

            EDIT:

            Basically, MTG is Cinderella’s evil half or step sisters.

            They kept jamming their feet into badly sized and badly formed fancy shoes, and at least in the original version, they actually cut off parts of their feet to try and literally fill Cinderella’s shoes, but the Prince kept noticing the blood, and them walking awkwardly.

            MTG has just been jamming her feet into, eh, likely needle point pumps of some kind, for so long, that they’ve smushed her pinky toes under and behind the adjacent toe, and the other toes have splayed out to compensate for the lack of balance that causes.

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    17 days ago

    Hey guys I really don’t enjoy this dystopian late stage capitalism…

    FUCK OFF YOU COMMUNIST RAT!!

    ehm wtf

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    Sounds like AOC is trying to claw back good will after her recent blunder.

    Many people on the left are saying that she voted that way to not appear on the same side as MTG, when she could have stood on her on morals as she’s always done, relentlessly. But no, in this instance she’s spineless.

    No candidate is perfect, but she continues to bed the best for the left. And this is why we hold her to such a high standard, as much as Bernie Sanders, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Summer Lee, and Al Green.

    She needs to earn the nonzero trust she lost back, and I don’t think lip service in the form of cyber fights does it for most.

    Edit: OP corrected that this screenshot isn’t from 2025, but from 2021. Still, interesting timing to post this given current events.

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      To clarify, I didn’t post this with any agenda related to AOC’s recent statements. I haven’t paid enough attention to the story to have an opinion. I just happened to be scrolling through old memes earlier today and felt like sharing, because I thought it was funny.

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        Yeah no worries! It’s a harmless coincidence. I just thought I’d add my side of things given from what I’ve been hearing lately.

        Didn’t mean to insinuate you had an agenda either! Apologies if it came across that way.

        I linked an article that talks about the story more, if you’re interested.

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          It’s all good! I had just seen a few other comments mention similar things, so I wanted to make it clear that I wasn’t trying to make any particular point related to AOC’s recent votes. And I’ll take a look at the article, thanks!

          Edit: Also, I do generally agree, we should hold our leaders to high standards