• pdxfed@lemmy.world
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    2.5 years worth of fuel? I’m no disaster prepper but uh I’d want to hear about solar and batteries, etc.

    Imagine living for 2.5 years in that, somehow miraculously it not turning into a Fallout scene with a bunch of entitled rich pricks who suddenly can’t order others around, and then being forced back into the “real world” where you have nothing. What was accomplished?

    Are they going to have chefs? Do they have 2.5 years worth of food?

    If they have a sniper post you assume they understand things could be quite hostile as society finally implodes, do they have an armory? Solar powered vehicles…?

    These fuckers should all play fallout. Might realize what was lost.

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      And those of us who have played should do some thinking and understand the real lesson to take from the game is that cooperation is the sole way to avoid that grim outcome.

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        I always remember the Preppers show episode with the hippie commune. They were already involved with the local community and were talking about how they would just invite everyone to the party and keep scaling up. The show tried so hard to inject problems into the plan but they were the only ones who looked like they had a realistic idea. Everyone else was planning to solo the world or bug out to ???.

        Real world there are plenty of examples of the local community pulling together before the government and cops show up to take charge and screw it all up.

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          Humans are genetically disposed to cooperation.

          Our financial system is mathematically disposed to competition.

          Go figure.

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            “Humans are genetically disposed to cooperation.”

            In small groups that know each other. Even then, maybe.

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              No, really in large groups too.

              What I believe is rather, the larger the group, the larger the chance to get a few psychopaths in there that screw things up for everyone. Psychopathy seems to have a prevailance of about 1% in the population.

              Btw the division of labour economy we all live in is cooperative in nature. You might compete for roles in it, but the output of those roles is supposed to be cooperative. Anyone who’s work is purely competitive is basically someone who works solely to take something away from someone else. So essentially something akin to a thief in function. I consider that part of the problem, not part of the normal economy.

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      I wonder how the fuel is stored. Under ideal conditions diesel can last 1.5-2 years. Otherwise, they only have 6-12 months.

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        You can be in my bunker, rather than rich folks I want practical knowledge to rebuild…not that diesel fuel will be a priority for potentially quite a while society rebuilds. Though if there is the intermediary Mad Max phase you will probably be leading an army…

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      I don’t even get the point of them for billionaires. Like what, you’ll emerge after some calamity and say “well actually I was very wealthy and important in the old world”? These things are going to serve as glorified loot chest for the desperate who survive any sort of scenario that justifies their use. Assuming people don’t just seal up all the intakes and entrances to spite them. No one survives the surface? There’s going to be nothing for these people to return to anyway.

      That’s all just assuming the security detail/staff transporting them don’t just shoot them and take their spot after hearing “thanks for getting us here and keeping us safe but there’s only supplies and room for my family, so back to the apocalypse you go”. So fucking stupid.

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        Maybe they plan to emerge with gold? Honestly stumped about what I’d do in their shoes to try and reassert my place in society. Maybe just start employing people with gold reserves, use that as venture capital to start a new business empire.

        So, never take jobs from a mysterious stranger who pays well. Anyone who works for bunker people should be made into outlaws.

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      I recommend reading Stark by Ben Elton. That’s pretty much what happens at the end. (Spoiler alert for a 37 year old novel)

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    “…plus tens of thousands of dollars in annual maintenance fees.”

    And

    “…enough diesel fuel to run its generators for 2 1/2 years.”

    Hopefully they have spares and a tech to do the maintenance for the 2 1/2 years that the apocalypse lasts 🙄

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      I am shocked that we’re still going. I predicted in the 80s that around 2010-2015 or so would be at the latest.

      Look at the fucker go!

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    With nobody to lord over these people would wither away quite rapidly… a parasite cannot live long without a host.

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    The only ones who have a chance are the ones on a large island. But, even then, they need people to do the farming and maintenance. Also, they need to keep those people happy, lest they, oh, I don’t know, maybe hang them.

    Billionaires are not as smart as they think they are. They aren’t even as smart as we think they are.

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    5 million? That’s peanuts. The ultra rich should be able to afford more than a 5 Vancouver condos.

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      Nah, just weld over the door of this shit, and continue living your normal life. Nothing useful inside anyway.