That dilemma stems from newly proposed USPS rules that seek to comply with an executive order President Donald Trump signed this spring to crack down on mail-in voting. If courts let the order stand, it would give the federal government an unprecedented role in elections — and could put even more voter data in the hands of Trump officials searching for supposed election fraud.

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    Watching the wildly slow ramp up to a breakup of the US in whatever form it takes is agonizing, shits been coming for a hot minute and we’ve blown by the few potential off-ramps.

    My money is on a Balkan style civil war

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      Personally I think we’ll see a civil war for a bit but it’ll burn out relatively quickly due to lack of fuel, then we may see a troubles like situation for a bit in some regions.

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        The troubles is my second most likely bet, being real I had figured there would be more outrage and action already so my predictions may be tainted by hope in humanity

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          I think at this point we’re on this weird razor edge of instability where everything is going to shit but it isn’t quite bad enough to outright cause the whole thing to collapse, so everyone is sitting around just kinda waiting. Personally I subscribe to the addage “The fall of empire is slow until it’s not” so this type of shit was always a distinct possibility. I do think there’s a chance shit will come to a head either when the stock market implodes or when something unseen kicks in and causes issues.

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            Yeah I don’t disagree at all, I think I underestimated how placated the American public(myself included) were and how much that would drive us to just keep on with our daily routines. Eventually something will break but I can’t see what might be anymore. Gas prices and the midterms will be interesting indicators, $7 a gallon in Tennessee or the like might cause something in rural areas while election denial claims if the DNC wins big in November could prompt a crisis on the state gov level. But limbo is where we are right now for sure

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    Wow that really sucks. I’m living abroad and do not want to have to fly back home to vote

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    “Trump wants postal service to block mail in ballots for states that don’t suck up to his rules”

    Same reality, highlighting the insanity of the actor.

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    Wow, another illegal move by the fascist party. Can’t wait for SCOTUS to fuck the states yet again.

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    So what’s stopping states from sending ballots via ups or fedex? Like I know that’s more expensive but if democracy and privacy are at stake is this an option for the short term?

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      Ignoring legal hurdles like ballot harvesting, and ignoring that ballots must be postmarked to be considered valid—which means this whole situation would require the USPS, which is currently cooperating with the administration, to actually go behind their back and organize a system of postmarking then handing them off to a private company for delivery—it’s only possible if UPS or FedEx will accept them.

      Will a giant private company accept a bunch of responsibility and do something altruistic that is also anti-Republican Party? Tune in to find out!

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        Postmarking no longer counts towards the deadline of things like tax returns, I am guessing voting as well.

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          Mail in ballots still require postmarks edit, unless you’re dropping them off by hand. That’s an incorrect guess and a misunderstanding of postmarks.

          Your tax returns are considered timely if you hand them over to the USPS by the deadline. The postmark date was used as evidence to this point. The USPS clarified that postmarking wouldn’t be happening until your mail arrived at sorting facilities, so even if you technically dropped it in a blue box on the right date it may not get postmarked til later. That’s not really a change; obviously there are no little people employed to hide inside and stamp mail you drop in a hole. There’s also a last collection time written on all the boxes. However, distances between collection points and sorting facilities is increasing and transportation in some cases is getting less frequent. Also operations is less well staffed and the policy announcement is masking operational delays. As always if you want something stamped with the date you go to the window at a post office before they close.

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      It was at stake in 2024, people couldn’t give two shits then. Why would they now when more and more obstacles are being thrown in the way by the shitbags they allowed into power in the first place.

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    The executive branch doesn’t run or control the post office. Of course that won’t stop them from trying. Wondering who will bring the first lawsuit.

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      You need to catch up on the last decade or so. Dejoy did irreperable damage. Biden blamed inactivity on not being able to intervene with board of governors. Trump does so without reservation of course. New dickhead postmaster general was a FedEx board member who’s tasked with setting the USPS up to fail and force a privatization play… And make the uniforms more “hot” as trump directed.

      Here’s some of the story: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/22/twcq-n22.html

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      the feds don’t run states’ elections either, even for federal offices.

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      USPS is not a business, and therefore not required to be profitable.

      Furthermore, USPS’s financial problems that consistently make headlines were manufactured by a 2006 federal act that required them to prefund health and retirement benefits 75 years in advance. The policy was a republican gift to private shipping companies (UPS, FedEx, etc), it was repealed under Biden.

      Although they are still stuck with the contract Trump 1 saddled them with for awful and expensive delivery vehicles.

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        Although they are still stuck with the contract Trump 1 saddled them with for awful and expensive delivery vehicles.

        The replacement procurement process was started in January 2015, before Trump. And the contract itself was signed by Biden in 2021.

        Do you have anything to back up the NGDV being awful? Because from everything I can find that’s not the case. They’re much safer (airbags, anti-lock brakes, and crumple zones), and have Air Conditioning. The commentary I can find from actual USPS workers seems pretty positive. Most of the complaints are more from armchair redditors about the design, which is obviously secondary to the utility for this type of use case. Or they are complaints about the 10/90 BEV/ICE procurement split decided by the Trump admin, citing cost… even though the price difference was only about $3 Billion. Not actually complaints about the NGDV itself being a bad replacement for the LLV.

        The NGDV uses modern components, has modern safety features (the old LLV basically had none), and it’s available with both an ICE and BEV powertrain, and the ICE option can be swapped out later to the BEV, it’s not stuck being a gas powered vehicle forever.

        The old Grumman LLV has needed a replacement for decades. Anecdotally, I had two spontaneously catch fire in front on our house several years ago, about a month or so apart from failed components, likely due to age. Maintaining them cost a fortune because of that.

        Mail delivery is a near perfect use case for a BEV. Nearly identical routes every day, less than 70 miles total, with known time and distances. And long times of non-use overnight to charge the batteries, no fast charge needed.

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          I thought they were going to deploy like 80% of the fleet as BEV but Trump decided it should be more like 80% ICE. Conversions later, who and when and how much? Vs just getting the right thing from the beginning? Trump’s hatred of renewables fucked up the process just like so many others.