Newsom is shitty but THIS IS THE WAY!!!

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    “Californians pay the bills for the federal government. We pay over $80 BILLION more in taxes than we get back,” the Democratic governor said in an X post Friday afternoon, referencing a recent analysis from the Rockefeller Institute that California contributed about $83 billion more in federal taxes in 2022 than it received back from Washington.”

    So if Newsome cuts off the flow, it’s not just the $83B overage, it’s everything + $83B.

    California is, what? 13th largest economy in the world? 11th?

    Whoah… 4th. Just ahead of Japan and behind Germany:

    https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/04/23/california-is-now-the-4th-largest-economy-in-the-world/

    US and China being #1 and 2.

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    See, when people say Democrats need to start DOING things to push back against Trump, this is what they’re talking about.

    Is this a foolproof idea? Probably not. Could it backfire? Possibly. Will it really help? If it makes the admin second-guess what it can get away with, yeah, that’s helpful. This is the energy we need. Stop playing softball with these fascists.

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    This is the first stage of sedition.

    The US is literally about to become divided. The DSA

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      I know someone that hasn’t paid their taxes in years and they’ve yet to face consequences. I genuinely do wonder if the IRS has the capability to enforce tax collection atm.

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        They “caught” me because I forgot to file the paperwork showing my employer arranged me paying my taxes on vesting stock shares. Couldn’t have been more than four figures. I’m glad they’re on the case of small-fry tax “cheats.”

        Meanwhile, billionaires pay nothing in taxes.

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    Can someone explain how this would work? When I work a job and they withhold money from my check, they then pay that withheld money along with the matching taxes paid by the business directly to the federal government, don’t they? Would the state just order the businesses to send the money to them instead? If my tax dollars don’t get sent to the fed, wouldn’t the IRS still come after me to pay them?

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for it. I just don’t understand the mechanics of how it would work.

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      They can’t stop the fed from collecting taxes on individuals or businesses. State agencies, maybe, but even then. Individuals get taxed by the fed.

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        They could probably pass a law that companies within California pay taxes to the fed through an escrow account held by the state, pass the data through so if nothing crazy happens, it doesn’t really affect anybody, and get enough companies to comply that Trump would back down.

        The courts would eventually decide whether or not it was legal, but by then Trump will have moved off to another target to performatively attack while pretending to help people who aren’t multi-millionaires while siphoning their money instead.

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    How would CA even do this? Most of the taxes go from people to the feds without the state as an intermediary.

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      Doge just gutted the irs. Who will collect?

      CA could just offer an service to run the irs around in circles or even pay for your audit.

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        Create an escrow account, and tell CA businesses that federal withholding goes there. Same with payments by individuals.

        Maybe some won’t. But most probably will. Especially if you plan to tell them you’ll fund Medicare/aid and snap from it.

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      California has a bigger economy than Canada. Don’t think there’s enough CAD$ to go around

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    22 days ago

    What does this even mean? Like W2 taxes go directly from employer to federal right? What kind of control can California actually do to stop monetary flow to the federal government?