• vegeta@lemmy.worldOP
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    Religion, too, is a weapon. What manner of weapon is religion when it becomes the government?

    -Edric, Guild Navigator - Dune Messiah

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      The mechanism of religion as a weapon never changes: controlling the public through fear and using said fear to extract power and wealth.

      If you really want to understand power, religion and wealth one need look no further than Henry VIII’s Tudor court and Thomas Cromwell with his scheme to rob all the sacred religious Abbeys of England and take their wealth establishing a brand new made up religion. It’s the point in history where the veneer of religion was stripped away and left in its place were the people who had been using it casting all airs aside and start directly controlling people by simply killing and torturing enough of them.

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    Doesn’t that story also include the Antichrist who’s “charismatic” and fools them all into fealty to him?

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        yup its all signs of devil influence. not accumulating wealth and being against people who do. feeding the poor. helping those in need. these people need to find jesus.

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      They collectively believed in it so much that they manifested him into reality without realizing

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        Like the orcs from 40k hahaha 😂

        But I honestly have way more respect for the orcs. They at least got creative with their collective psychic abilities.

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      Yes. Also, giant man-faced scorpions wearing solid gold hats will climb out of the Earth to eat the unfaithful.

      UNCANNY FORESIGHT

      (not a joke, really says that. tax free. They don’t have to pay taxes for this shit)

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        Everybody’s gotta go somehow. Being chomped down by a gold-hatted man-faced scorpion is better than lots of other ways of leaving this world.

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      This is why learning about religions is important…

      Not so much to “learn” from the religion, but to learn how that religions follows tend to think.

      For this brand of Christian extremism, they’re trying to make the rapture happen. Because that happens at the start of Armageddon, they’re trying to start Armageddon.

      To do so:

      1. The area that is modern day Israel needs to be ethnostate controlled by the Jewish faith.

      2. They need to enter a religious war against all their neighbors, none of which can be Jewish nations.

      3. The Jewish nation gets wiped off the map by “heatens”, meaning not Jews or Christians.

      4. Everyone the right specific flavor of Christian (extremists Protestants) gets called up to heaven, and it’s heavily implied they will get to watch everyone else suffer for enterity on “hell on earth” like some fucked version of Squid Game.

      That’s why I fully believe trump was manipulated into starting this, everyone in on this scheme told him it would be an easy win and to kick up shit, knowing it won’t.

      And once it’s “hot” enough over there, they’re gonna get trump to do a full withdraw with no notice to cause chaos. It’s likely what happened with Afghanistan too.

      The end goal is Israel being wiped out, they just had to make Israel feel like they had enough back up to start wars with all their neighbors at once.

      Like, their “Armageddon clock” is seconds to midnight, and I wouldn’t put it best them to have trump toss a nuke on his way out to ensure Israel gets fully wiped to fufil the prophecy.

      But back to the beginning:

      We desperately need to solve the religious extremist issue, and just getting rid of trump wot solve shit. Everyone will just go back to ignoring the real shit till they try again.

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      Say what you want about the crusades, but at least the king and his knights all rode off to war personally.

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        My favorite story from the Crusades.

        The Europeans landed and a huge mob of locals came running at them. Naturally the knights killed all the ‘infidels.’

        Later, they learned that the ‘infidels’ were local Christians who were coming to greet them and offer support.

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    Far right leaders want to see trump ignite armageddon, making him the antichrist.

    If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will be tormented with fire and sulfur." Revelations 14:9-11

    The mark on the forehead says “MAGA”

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      Yep. Because the crazies are gagging for Christ to return.
      Their whole grift, their raison d’etre is “god is coming, pray harder, and give me your money “

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    Hegseth already thought this when he got the job.

    He’s insane and in charge enough without religious leaders anyway.

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        No, that’s Vance. Hegseth is the one with the christofascist tattoos; you don’t have those carved onto you out of cynicism.

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          Yeah, I have a feeling Hegseth is either a true believer, or state mandated rehab brainwashed him into it.

          Or drunk visions talk to him.

          I don’t think Vance believes anything he says past what will keep him in power.

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          I think it is mostly cynicsm, that he doesn’t actually believe that nonsense, and that he’s playing those that do, and tattoos are a part of that. Guy was a fox news host, no way he’s a true believer.

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    US was justifying its genocides in the middle-east by “they are religious extremists.” How much of it was projection?

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    Imagine believing that your all powerful god is so weak that he has to wait on you to start the end of the world. Pathetic.

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      It’s even more comical than that. Their own scriptures say that nobody will know the time of the end of the world. “I will come as a thief in the night.” But in their arrogance, they think they can force God’s hand.

      Fundies never fail to escalate the stupidity and to stir up shit for the rest of us.