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        So which browser would you recommend? It looks like Firefox is the only one not based on Chromium

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          Firefox has some very good forks including Waterfox (pretty normal) and LibreWolf (pretty privacy-hardened out of the box and may require a little Settings menu tweaking to make normal).

          It’s unfortunate, but at the end of the day you kind of have to bite the bullet and accept that you will be using something downstream of something bad, e.g. Google (Chrome forks) or their money (Firefox is funded not by donations but by them).

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            Chrome forks aren’t just tainted by Google’s money; they’re tainted by Google’s power. Prefer a Firefox-derived browser if you care about web standards.

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            Vivaldi seems to block adds well to iOS too.

            Really the best I’ve found is 1blocker for Safari, but I got that when the lifetime version was a only few dollars. No clue how limiting the free version is. (Imagine subscribing to an ad-blocker! - but than again, how many people donate to ublock?).

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              Vivaldi’s ad blocker is really subpar compared to Brave or uBO. I tried using it for a while, and you have to tamper with filter lists (including disabling pre-approved advertisers) and it still fails in areas Brave doesn’t.

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        There is no chromium on iOS, all the browsers are actually the Safari in a trench coat.

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      When did iOS get ublock origin and sponsorblock as extensions for FF?

      Edit: To all the replies, I’m just pointing out that the guy above me is wrong. Yes, Brave is bad. But FF is not a good replacement for Brave if you want ad blocking on iOS because iOS doesn’t support any browser extensions outside of Safari.

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      I have yet to see a reason for not using Brave that wouldn’t also apply to Firefox developer Mozilla. That includes appeals to morality, control from Big Tech, etc.

      If Brave works (and on iOS it’s basically the only option with a reliable ad blocker) then I don’t see a reason to avoid it.

      Would love to see somebody levy a complaint that doesn’t also apply to Firefox. Any takers?

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    It’s still wild to me anyone uses or recommends Brave after their crypto scam and all their other shady dealings

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      Unfortunately there are still close to 0 other options on iOS for background play, at least it has the benefit of not being chromium on iOS

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        Sideload https://github.com/dayanch96/YTLite

        Sponsorblock, Adblock, background play, skip, etc all integrated

        Sideloading on ios is easy now unless your device was ever provisioned for a dev certificate. If that’s the case and it’s still active then just sign it with your own cert. if it’s no longer active you either need a fresh apple id or you need to use one of the kind of sketchy signing services. Otherwise you just use like sideloadly, altstore, side store, etc

        Also there is no chromium on ios. All browsers use webkit and are basically just reskinned safari. Some heavily modify this (eg orion can run some Firefox and chrome extensions) though

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      What scam? Or do you just mean the crypto stuff in general (which is fine, I’m not saying crypto isn’t a scam, just trying to understand you)?

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    yt-dlp is great for downloading media you’ve already found (or at least, playlists or creator channels you’ve already found), but you can’t use it for discovering new media. You still need a browser or GUI app like FreeTube or Newpipe for that, and it works better when you’re actually signed in with your Google account so that the recommendation algorithm works and it can keep track of what you watched for you.

    Don’t get me wrong; I would love to limit my interaction with Google to anonymously fetching video URLs. But none of the alternatives sync my watch history between devices or recommend new videos (beyond just new uploads from subscribed channels) to me.

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      I’ve been finding new stuff fine on YouTube without logging in. Though that probably only works well if you have other sources for inspiration, like recommendations from friends, bandcamp sites of small labels or music journalism. I use YouTube’s search function a lot.

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    Any plugin claiming to bring back youtube dislikes usually does it with some off-site database, that can be easily manipulated, as the API for it has been deprecated completely.

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      For new videos (ones they don’t have old scraped data to rely on) they capture the like and dislikes from users who have the extension installed, and extrapolate the amount of dislikes from that ratio and the amount of likes YouTube shows.

      Surely that doesn’t skew the data in any way.

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    sigh

    The Brave browser is based on Chromium. Using it to get away from chrome does very little. Different browser, same engine.

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        Yes. Less, but not zero. You’re still tied into Google’s ecosystem. Brave is basically Chrome with a few privacy settings enabled by default.

        FireFox on the other hand is completely independent from Google, and more tweakable.

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        If you absolutely have to use a Chromium browser for some reason it’s not the worst choice. But they’re pretty shady.

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    I don’t see it here but the top comment on reddit for this post was that:

    If you have a VPN with a server in Albania to switch to that because serving Ads during streaming is illegal there. I have yet to test it but sounds legit and no one was nay saying it.

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      You can use yt-dlp to download videos, too. I do it all the time, mostly because my internet is unreliable and slow. yt-dlp even works for Twitch VODs, though it’s getting a bit ridiculous when you’re downloading an entire 13 hour stream to watch maybe half of it.

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    on ios you can also use firefox focus, it doesn’t have ads on youtube, but iirc you can’t stay logged in because it doesn’t save cookies (tho that could be a positive depending on how you look at it)

    vivaldi ios also didn’t have ads on youtube, but it’s been a while since i used it so it may have changed and it’s a pretty heavy browser in my experience

    orion also supports firefox/chrome extensions but in my experience it’s adblocking (even with ublock) isn’t perfect. but again, it’s been a while so maybe it’s better now

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      I’d love to see PeerTube get more use, but the one issue for creators is monetization. I don’t really see a great way for creators to make a decent income through PeerTube. We all hate the ads, but… That’s where a lot of their money comes from. Without a solution to that, creators are never going to embrace it, unfortunately.

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        There is buycoffie site to give donation to creators. Many yt creators dont get much money from yt ads cause they get demonetisation frequently.

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          But do things like that actually translate into respectable revenue? I understand that there are technically ways to get paid, but they only matter to creators if they actually fill their pockets.

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            The problem is nobody is crazy enough to host these much videos other than Google. Google wants to stay as a monopoly in long-form video sharing platforms and I don’t think Google is actually making much money in return comparing the cost if Petabytes of video files getting uploaded all the time.

            Even after keeping a huge chunk of money that they get from advertisers, I still don’t think it’s that profitable but Somany people use YouTube and - they get to also stalk our online activity and do god knows what with allaaat data.

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              That’s a big part of what PeerTube tries to address. Yes, the videos still must be hosted somewhere, but PeerTube streams the video as a torrent where the host is the tracker and guaranteed seed while every client streaming the video is a torrent client that shares what it already has with every other active stream to reduce demand on the host. It’s not a perfect solution since the host must act as a guaranteed seeder, but for popular videos actively being streamed by many people at once, it has the potential to massively reduce traffic for those streams.

              For less popular videos that may not have more than one viewer in any given moment, though, there’s likely no real impact. If it got some more development interest, I could see it getting archival clients that behave sort of like an *Arr server for media management, allowing users to save their favorite videos in exchange for acting as an extra seed over some longer term. That’d help, but it’s definitely not a full solution.

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    You can use Orion in iOS instead of Brave, which is shady as hell and owned by a bigot.