Fuck him. And also fuck the US and Israel. As an outsider this is just all villains fighting each other.
this is just all villains fighting each other
…and civilian collateral damage, unfortunately.
Unfortunately there’s also civilian collateral damage when they aren’t fighting each other.
I am sure the hundred schoolgirls were also villains fighting each other
To Iran they were just going to be new protestors to kill.
Fuck all 3 of these authoritarian shit stains.
are you justifying a warcrime against a school because they could have died in the future???
If you get murdered, is the murderer innocent because it is possible someone else would have murdered you later?
Shitlibs logic
How did you misread that so badly?
you can’t preemptively murder children because in your fan fiction they die later on
You agian missed two very important words that OP wrote
To Iran
That means if you were Iran then you would be having those thoughts. Not someone normal.
wait, being Iranian means it’s ok for USA/Israel to kill Iranian schoolgirls?
if someone else wants to kill you, does that give me the moral right to kill you first?
With innocent, normal people caught in the crossfire. If those cunts would simply kill each other, fine. But it’s always other people getting hit too.
I have a list of world leaders whose death’ll make me happy. These are people that make the world better by dying.
As an American. Fuck my current administration. I can still say that for now. Let’s see how long it lasts.
Not going to defend him, but a Pedophile led nation executing/kidnaping foreign heads of states and bombing schools is not a good thing.
the way my Iranian friends have put it as they celebrate the death of the head of the regime and brace themselves for the impact of the new regime is that when you live under opression all your live, you learn to celebrate the small stuff, even as you know what’s coming will also be bad
regardless of regime changes, nothing good comes from American interventions
in the grand scale absolutely. nothing ever good comes from foreign interventions. a people must be given the tools to liberate themselves rather than have it decided for them what is best
the US doesn’t want to liberate jack shit, they just want a puppet state
exactly
So long as they don’t democratically elect a socialist. Otherwise they’re getting a Western-backed far-right dictator forced on them instead to “prove socialism doesn’t work.”
Hey, spoiler alert!
Oh sorry I thought everyone’s already seen this one before.
I mean this regime is a continuation of a regime change that was also installed by US and UK about 40 years ago (correction 80 years ago and also perhaps better to emphasise not ideological continuation but a new regime due to instability formed in the country). And more recently in any place where US has been involved in a regime change (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt and Syria among others), the country is left to the mercy of religious cults or warlords after a great proportion of civilian infrastructure is bombed out of existence.
So yeah, I agree.
Imagine your neighbor is an abuser who beats his wife and children, and you want to help them. so you kick their door, beat the husband, beat the wife, kill one of the kids, and set their house on fire.
“Also, I’m going to live here for awhile to keep you all free. I hope that doesn’t cause any tension.”
plus you get to sell all their stuff and pocket all the cash
You got the timeline wrong there. The US installed the Shah in the 50s, after destroying Iran’s democratic leftist government. Then in the 70s, the Iranian people rose up and removed the Shah. Almost immediately, though, the revolution was hijacked by fundamentalist clerics.
When the revolutionary government was put under pressure by an invasion from Saddam Hussein on behalf of George Bush Snr, which killed millions, that allowed the Revolutionary Guard to consolidate power, and become the brutally repressive government we see today.
thanks updated, when I say sth is X years ago I generally start counting from 2000 lol.
Ha! Same here.
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There’s already a war against them by their own government that’s killed over 30,000 Iranians since late December. Civilians are being slaughtered either way, but this way means that maybe the Ayatollahs won’t be in power at the end.
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i will not tell them how to think or feel. the old regime killed their families. the new regime will likely finish the job. iran, israel, the united states. none are working or fighting on behalf of the Iranian people. i will help them as they work to survive, but i will not moralize to them that they’re wrong to feel how they feel about things that impact them directly
especially considering that over 100 schoolgirls were murdered in the process.
if a bomb killed 150 children and also took out Trump, I wouldn’t celebrate it
The deaths of children will forever prevent america from being a hero here. So we’ve just created a new enemy, likely a more cunning one than the last.
that’s the point. make sure there are always people who hate America with all their soul. so there’s always a justification for the US to be a military state.
this is largely how we know i live in a terror state. america needs enemies to justify its continued imperial project so it will go out and manufacture them
when I say, cruelty is the point, this is why. that’s why they do family separation, what’s why ensure people suffer, both domestically and internationally. it’s an investment in future targets
I would celebrate Trump death but not the 150 children. Gotta learn to compartimentalize and all that, in a complex world.
you shouldn’t compartmentalize that operation Epstein has slaughtered 150 schoolgirls. you should be furious.
This world is full of evil, we have to be willing to take in what little good we can get for what it is until people start doing really better. If Operation Epstein kills 150 schoolgirls and Trump, I of course won’t be celebrating that 150 schoolgirls are dead, but also I’m not going to lie or omit that Trump dying is the only good thing coming out of that. What, you want me to lament that Trump is dead?
By this logic, then no one should celebrate the death of a serial murder if they are killed by a rapist.
One bad person is dead. That’s good no matter how you cut it. Just cause the shit isnt over and there’s still bad people doesn’t mean we arnt happy things have improved.
If you only ever settle for perfection then you might as well just let the pedos go uncontested. Cause you can’t stop all of them in one go.
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Oh look, an ML user standing up for a dictatorship.
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*when you live your whole life under the effect of unilateral sanctions, designed specifically to punish civilians living their life in order to create political change (aka terrorism)
All of a sudden this bothers you? lol your terrorist nation has been doing this non stop forever. You guys bomb my country, treat my people with racism, you leave us the mess and move on, and pretend it never happened. Then you turn around and criticize other nations. It’s a big facepalm seeing so many young leftists acting like this is new
you’re making a lot of assumptions about me, I’ve been protesting almost every week for years, local antiwar org I work with has been organizing weekly protests since 2003.
this bs aggression isn’t new, but I refuse to desensatise myself.
The fun thing is your statement applies to both the US and Iran.
has Iran kidnapped and murdered foreign heads of state lately?
Good for him.
Warms the cockles of the heart.
Nice! Now do Putin, Trump and the rest of the dictators
Can we include the plutocrats and oligarchs? That seems to be the root of the problem.
don’t forget the bilionaires!
And don’t forget to nuke Isreal to green dust!
So easy to take care of Iran, but so hard to take care of Russia.
Seeing the USA waltz in dropping bombs over literally nothing but ignoring the Ukraine is pretty bizarre.
This post is verified shit, yes.
Every so often I am reminded Reddit liberals (who just weren’t honest enough to stay there with their MAGA friends, who are closer to them than they are to anyone outside of the Western sphere) also came here. Oh well.
This shit is no joke, man, the US backed a coup and when it wasn’t successful enough they murdered people, and this is not even the first time in the span of a year (in this country). And American imperialism is always, always, on the wrong side of history and ethics, because they’re amoral geopolitical moves made to enrich Western aristocrats, loss of life is not even part of the equation. Stop it already, you don’t have to be Greta but at least you can understand this is nothing but violence for the sake of control by the usual villains, and not make fun of it all.
Nah, the guy was a piece of shit and I’m glad he’s dead and fully supporting people meming in him. I’m not giving some opressive dictator that does all the same shit I hate people like Trump for, just because he also hates America.
Your heart seems to be in the right place but you’re largely misinformed, or taking things in a vacuum. Regardless, is it America’s place to bomb yet another country, yet another group of people who haven’t attacked them first, for whatever reason you might think?
Nah, try listening to Iranians. They love that he got exploded.
First of all, eww, don’t speak so casually about death. And no, lol, the only ones saying that are expats living in the West, of course. 😅
No on both accounts. You’re wrong, both in your attempt to regulate my language and your assertion.
You can literally find (actual real non-AI) footage of people being close enough to the explosion that they should be terrified, but they’re elated instead.
Bad Luck Ayatollah.
Not that I like this guy he deserves to rot in the same cesspit as Trump and Netanyahu (and more). But this post looks like rage bait.
it IS ragebait
Only idiots brain rotted by Iranian propaganda would be upset by that asshole’s death.
The guy executed something like 30K people in the last month. What kind of shit person supports a guy like that?
INB4 WHATABOUT WHATABOUT WHATABOUT
There is no what abouts. I am glad he is dead. But I am also sorry Iranian people have been suffering at the hands of Russia, USA and Israel for the better part of the last century. Netanyahu, Putin, Trump are no different than him in terms of how merciless and inhumane they can be.
What could possibly go wrong?
How’s Libya doing these days? Is it good?
We should savour this moment cause I feel like this would be the only good thing that is gonna come out of these string of events.
At least he died doing something he loved.
Dedicated his life to spiritual fulfilment.
Killed by a country that rapes little girls and a country that murders little girls.
lol wow, we’re pretending this dude was a good guy now?
Like a brainwashed American would know anything about him. other than Zionist / Pahlavi propaganda about how evil he was.
He was a spiritual figure to millions. A poet and a scholar.
I should add he was the only obstacle, through his Fatwa, to Iran pursuing a nuclear weapon. Thats now history thanks to Netanyahu and his paedophile puppet President
Edit: fucking morons
Im an indigenous Latino not born anywhere near America but ok.
What I do know is a bunch of Iranian people who has to flee the murders, rapes and executions of the Islamic Revolution .
Fuck religion and spirituality, and fuck this old fuck who got blown up. May he rot in the abyss
A revolution caused by western powers actively destabilizing Iran mind you. Not dick riding the ayatolah but they are a direct result of foreign meddling.
Iranians outside Iran hate their country like the Cubans of Florida do. You can’t trust anything they say.
You would understand better if the Jews had killed the pope and were dancing in the streets and Zionist media were labeling him a murdering paedophile who deserved to die.
You have to really go out of your way to be this uneducated, like really there are endless sources on the atrocities and abuses by the royal guard of Iran and the ayatollah, you have to avoid and refuse to read them to have your viewpoint.
P.s Castro was also a murderer and madman, you’re just too young to remember him as anything but the bearded old man with a cigar , you didn’t see their brutal rise to power, so all that death must have been a Jewish lie right?
You think the Savak under the Shah was any better?
The West’s perception of Iran has for over 40 years been steered by Israel fanatics who despise Iran.
You know what I think? I think it’s none of our damn business. Do you see Iran sending troops to stop Mexican cartels? Maybe it’s not americas damn job to police the other side of the world, especially when their own country is a dumpster fire.
This past few years even the American left has decided they’re the world police.My perception of Iran from the last 40 years has been steered by Iranians i personally know who fled the regime. By your logic let’s ignore all the people Fidel Castro murdered and imprisoned illegally for decades, cause our views of him are painted by fleeing Cubans. You are likely too young to remember the actual atrocities, murders, rapes, mass executions. So you think it was bloodless and “the country seems chill”
Castro is a good comparison, all you guys remember a quirky old bearded man with a cigar who looks harmless. Cause you weren’t around for the bloody rise to power and executions
You should really stop acting like a country is some monolithic thing where everyone thinks and behaves the same. That’s not how it works anywhere. C’mon big dog, a little nuance isn’t going to hurt you.
Some people are just so anti-USA and anti-israel that they can’t see further than “USA and Jews bad, everyone else good”.
Reminds me of when the US took out Saddam, the US was wrong for invading Iraq. But saddam was not a good guy and deserved to die. Both can be true. And I do remember during the Iraq invasion people defending Saddam, not the people of Iraq but defending Saddam as a guy who was good cause he opposed America
Conflating Israel and Jews is called antisemitism. If someone is just anti-Israel, they don’t become antisemitic from that (but it sure invites a lot of antisemites who smell a possible convert)
Not quite, cause semites also includes Muslim Arabs, also most Anti-israel people are just anti-zionism, The thing is most people that are anti-israel are just anti-jews because they know nothing they talk about.
When I was 14, I also wisecracked that, but then
- I learned that linguistics is a descriptive discipline, not a prescriptive one: meaning correspond to usage, not what a word is “supposed” to mean
- I realized that words often have meanings that don’t correspond to their literal translation
So no, antisemitism doesn’t refer to any semitic tribes that aren’t Jewish.
I agree with you that words meaning is a thing of context, and what matters the most is what people imply when they use it, generalization usually takes a person to the wrong path; the only real guide for almost everything is the context.
IMO, anti-Semitism is more used to refer to anti-muslim sentiment than anti-jew sentiment, but I guess the location on earth that I walk matters a lot.
Where is that? I’ve never once heard of read of “antisemitism” being used that way
Empire’s been attacking these people for at least a century.
Too bad his death had to cost the lives of innocents…
To be fair, so did his life.
Ben, Krasnov, Xi, Vlad and the Ayatollah are peas in the same damn pod. Sick bastards, all of them!
You forgot Bibi but he’s worse than the others
They said Ben, is there another Ben that’s not Netanyahu?
Maybe they’re talking about Benito Mussolini?
Indeed, add his worthless murdering ass too.
