Not really. To you, antifa is a loosely-if-at-all organised collection of people united by opposition to fascism. To them, it’s a real organisation with actual members who use violence against the government. To you, because the collection isn’t really organised, the name determines what it is. To them, because it’s a real organisation, the name can be a lie and doesn’t matter. To you, direct action against the government is justified, because they’re in the process of creating a fascist state. To them, the government isn’t fascist, so action against the government can’t be on the basis of anti-fascism; antifa must therefore be a dishonest label.
Ah, but you have made the classical mistake of assuming they think/ actually believe what they are saying and arent just trying to disenfranchise billions.
Who’s “they”, now? I think that plenty of politicians knowingly misrepresent things like this, but I don’t think the average Trump voter/Fox news watcher understands. Otherwise the politicians and the news just wouldn’t have to lie.
This is somewhat of an encouraging thought. They have to lie to keep people on their side. Unfortunately the lies work, but at least the people don’t support their real agenda.
Never believe that anti‐ Semites fascists are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti‐Semites fascists have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.
It demonstrates they don’t comprehend basic English - this statement included.
Not really. To you, antifa is a loosely-if-at-all organised collection of people united by opposition to fascism. To them, it’s a real organisation with actual members who use violence against the government. To you, because the collection isn’t really organised, the name determines what it is. To them, because it’s a real organisation, the name can be a lie and doesn’t matter. To you, direct action against the government is justified, because they’re in the process of creating a fascist state. To them, the government isn’t fascist, so action against the government can’t be on the basis of anti-fascism; antifa must therefore be a dishonest label.
Ah, but you have made the classical mistake of assuming they think/ actually believe what they are saying and arent just trying to disenfranchise billions.
Who’s “they”, now? I think that plenty of politicians knowingly misrepresent things like this, but I don’t think the average Trump voter/Fox news watcher understands. Otherwise the politicians and the news just wouldn’t have to lie.
This is somewhat of an encouraging thought. They have to lie to keep people on their side. Unfortunately the lies work, but at least the people don’t support their real agenda.
Average viewer doesnt think, average producer is running a grift
And furthermore, to them the government can’t be fascist because they supported all of the fascist parts of it.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Sartre
France to the rescue!
A friend asked me what is antifa… I started carrying crayons after that encounter.
To feed your friend?
Maybe we need a rebranding change the name to anti-evil. Instead of fascist you say evil
Soon: “if being evil is bad then I don’t want to be good!!”