I skipped the steps of the application process that would have clued the agency in on my lack of fitness for the position. I made no effort to hide my public loathing of the agency, what it stands for, and the administration that runs it. And they offered me the job anyway.

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    I made no effort to hide my public loathing of the agency, what it stands for, and the administration that runs it. And they offered me the job anyway.

    That is far better than I expected, not worse. Hopefully there are enough of such folks that we can get some internal resistance going.

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      The point was that they clearly aren’t checking up on anyone they hire. Meaning literal nazis can easily get in without anyone noticing or caring.

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        …I mean that implies they wouldn’t hire Nazis if they were screening.

        America inspired the Nazis. This is nothing new. Our country is founded on genocide and built by slavery. The only reason decorum has been maintained as long as it has is because the propaganda/distraction machine worked so well until they broke it on Israel and forgetting to give people enough money to eat.

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          Not really, it implies they have plausible deniability because they can just pretend a “mistake” like that is a one off, if discovered. “Oh whoopsy, one slipped through!”

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            The LA Sherriff’s Department was revealed to have gangs in their ranks which would go out and party and get commemorative gang tattoos after they killed their first person.

            Basically nothing happened as a result.

            You drastically overestimate the extent to which there is oversight or accountability for any so-called ‘law enforcement’ in this country.

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              You’re making a huge mistake if you think I believe that would ever care from a morality standpoint. What I am saying is that they would prefer to appear to be checking and also not have records indicating they would hire known racists/criminals. My theory seems to line up with the author of this article’s experience.

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                Again, they got gang tattoos. They’re not worried about hiding anything or keeping up appearances. They have guns and the government on their side. They are the dogs of the ruling class. Most of us don’t even have guns… yet.

                Not to even get into the DHS Twitter posting “14 words” tweets and other barely-veiled white supremacist propaganda.

                My theory seems to line up with the author of this article’s experience.

                They hired her without even bothering to check that she’s a massive ICE detractor, how does that support your position? It’s a hiring process, a necessary part of getting boots on the ground, not a meaningful screening process and not really presented as one.

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                  If I’m wrong and you’re right then they literally would not have been requesting that paperwork at all. I’m not sure what this conversation is because we are on the same side and I haven’t remotely said anything in defense of any kind of decency on the behalf of law enforcement. I was just pitching a reasonable theory as to why they’d request screening paperwork at all if it literally didn’t matter and you’d get accepted anyhow.

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    Let’s say a local police officer arrests someone out in the field for a DUI. Extremely common. Or beating their wife or whatever—all the typical crimes they commit,” he said.

    Are we talking about immigrants or cops?

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    I read just yesterday in a differen… wait, it was Ken Klippenstein, here it is - anyhow, DHS employees (I guess even some of the newly hired ICE goons) just don’t want to do this shit anymore, but The Don said MOAR so they are scrambling to get people to do the dirtiest work.

    edit: it appears the article is about last autumn, so what I quoted is not directly connected but still of interest

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      The danger of doing something “ironically” or “to gain access from the inside” is, you MUST have a hard cutoff point, both in terms of time spent and things accomplished, and you MUST exit as soon as either one happens, regardless of the status of the other.

      Anything less, and you run the very real and serious risk of doing it for so long, you end up actually just doing it for real.

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          This is true, but having a handler requires one to know someone they can trust absolutely. Sadly, not everyone knows someone like that.

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            And this is one of our weaknesses we don’t have the organization to easily put this together. I would not know how to set it up and probably already fucked up by talking about it.

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              probably already fucked up by talking about it.

              I don’t think so. If we get to the point they have time and resources to tack down stuff like that, we’re badly losing the fight.

              Organizing is as easy as meeting your neighbors and starting a group chat to keep an eye on each other and maybe exchange information and resources. Rome wasn’t built in a day and all that. Focus on making connections to those closest to you and your network will grow organically from there.

              Organizing is effective too. It’s a lot harder for them to take someone when it’s John, the electrician who gave you a hand fixing your kitchen light and not just “the guy in the blue house.”

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      I mean, the article is about the reporters experience of applying. Should give you some idea, sounds like a pretty risk free endeavor - and you’d get a 50k sign up fee if accepted.

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        50k would be a game changer for me right now

        Edit: I think I would have to stay there for 2 years to keep the bonus. Fuck that.

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    ICE is just a tool. Mango Hitler wants them to push the population, but he doesn’t give a shit about them all. They are simply expendable and, when they are not useful anymore, they’ll be thrown under the bus.

    Notice how people talk about ICE but not about who controls ICE. They are just useful fools.

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    I am trying to change careers and was joking about joining ICE with my mom yesterday. We got a laugh out of me needing to find size 25 combat boots and a human colored clown wig first. If they want a circus they should expect clowns.

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    It says they prioritizing law enforcement and military backgrounds, but not being greatly rigorous… Which is better than I expected (I thought they’d be going straight to far right hate groups for direct recruiting).