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    the school went on lockdown after federal agents were spotted in the area

    I just want to call attention to the fact that this is where we are as a country. The mere presence of federal employees is causing schools to go into lockdown.

    If that’s not a clear indication that things are broken, I don’t know what is.

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        This cant be overstated enough. 70 million people absolutely love what’s happening.

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            It killed lots of them, but it had weakened by the time it spread to the rural states so it didn’t kill as quickly as the first wave in the big cities.

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              I’m still impressed that bird flu hasn’t made the jump to humans yet, that would be an extremely aggressive disease that would kill a lot of people, as most diseases that jump from animals to humans. Republicans have been lucky that their cuts to any and all disease controls haven’t resulted in it spreading freely

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        Much less than half, but they are a very noisy and emboldened group.

        If you can get the apathetic and politically uninvolved to start caring, you can easily outnumber the MAGAts.

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        We can’t really know what the non-eligible voting population believes, but in the 2024 General Election, ~34% voted Republican, ~32% voted Democrat, ~1% voted 3rd party, and ~33% didn’t vote.

        It’s more like at least a third of the country loves this, probably a little more although I have to imagine that some Republicans have soured on Trump, and that not all Republicans share the cult of personality idolization.

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    For all the larpers here demanding violent response, here’s the link to Judge Karen Immergut’s final decision of November 7, 2025 kicking the National Guard out of Portland, Oregon.

    https://www.opb.org/pdf/FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW_1762564569662.pdf

    You don’t have to read the whole thing. In fact, you don’t have to read more than the first (long) paragraph to understand that the courts are still largely defending the Constitution, and that it was the lack of violent response to Trump’s provocations that caused her to rule against keeping the National Guard in Portland. I’ve added line breaks, but this is the first paragraph:

    On September 27, 2025, the President of the United States federalized 200 members of the Oregon National Guard over the objection of Oregon’s governor and deployed them to a single federal building in Portland, Oregon. In the ensuing days, the President ordered the deployment of 400 federalized members of the Texas and California National Guards, all to the same federal building in Oregon. The mission of these deployments of military troops was ostensibly to quell violent protests outside the one-block Immigration and Customs Enforcement (“ICE”) building in Portland.

    But after a three-day trial that included the testimony of federal, state, and local law enforcement officials and hundreds of exhibits describing protest activity outside the Portland ICE building, the evidence demonstrates that these deployments, which were objected to by Oregon’s governor and not requested by the federal officials in charge of protection of the ICE building, exceeded the President’s authority.

    While violent protests did occur in June, they quickly abated due to the efforts of civil law enforcement officers. And since that brief span of a few days in June, the protests outside the Portland ICE facility have been predominately peaceful, with only isolated and sporadic instances of relatively low-level violence, largely between protesters and counter-protesters.

    When considering these conditions that persisted for months before the President’s federalization of the National Guard, this Court concludes that even giving great deference to the President’s determination, the President did not have a lawful basis to federalize the National Guard under 10 U.S.C. § 12406. (emphases and line breaks added by me)

    And then, specifically BECAUSE of the non-violent response of Portland, in every successive paragraph Judge Immergut labeled the order to move the National Guard into Portland UNLAWFUL.

    A violent response is NOT the answer at this point in time. I guarantee we will ALL know when it is. Save your shot.

    In the meantime, my fellow countrymen, beware of larpers who don’t even live in the US, much less in Minneapolis, trying to whip up rage and get people to fight. It’s not their blood that will be shed, not their families destroyed, not the last shreds of their democracy thrown into the cesspit of an impotent orange excrescence’s lust for power and unending greed: it will be our own.

    If you’re here to say you think people should fight, all you’re really telling me is that you’ve never had to fight, you don’t know how it works, you won’t be the one to pay the price in your own blood, AND you want Trump to consolidate his power even faster than he already is by giving him reason to occupy cities with the National Guard, declare martial law, and avoid having midterm elections. Think twice.

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      In the meantime, my fellow countrymen, beware of larpers who don’t even live in the US, much less in Minneapolis, trying to whip up rage and get people to fight.

      This bears repeating. I’ve seen it in every political thread here on lemmy.world for the last year. Every, single, time, some troll crashes into the thread and promotes escalation and violence. And every time someone takes the bait and gets into an argument, swamping half the visible comment area, effectively pushing out any sane discourse about a smarter way to deal with this. It’s hard to see it happen with such regularity and not imagine this to be calculated and deliberate.

      To this I say: let’s treat our political forum spaces like a protest. Stay civil. Call out provocateurs but don’t engage directly. Downvote and report to admins. Freeze these trolls out of the conversation, and let’s keep putting our heads together.

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        Thank you for saying this. I do not believe any of them are posting in good faith, and when challenged rely on logical fallacies and emotionally charged non-factual or barely factual statements.

        They’re here solely to inflame and incite. No other conclusion left to draw.

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          It might depend on how we define “good faith”, but I think some of them are probably posting in good faith — though good intentions don’t negate the harm they do, of course. I get the sense that some of the people trying to incite violent action are feeling overwhelmed and powerless due to being so far away from what is happening. I say this as someone who isn’t an American, and thus can only spectate with horror as American politics continues going to hell, with ripple effects on the rest of the world.

          It’s easy to rile people up when it’s not your neck on the line though. However uncomfortable it is to be spectating what’s happening in the US, you guys have it much worse. It would be nice to imagine that this is the kind of thing that could be solved through one, big push of violent resistance, but with how deep MAGA cronies have gotten their talons into US politics, resistance will necessarily require thinking of the long game. Violent resistance, when deployed unwisely, can end up serving the ends of the oppressor.

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            I get the sense that some of the people trying to incite violent action are feeling overwhelmed and powerless due to being so far away from what is happening.

            I agree with this, and it shames me that my own humanity is dulled enough by constant challenges to consider it secondary. But a core part of what us anti-fascists actually tend to agree about is that words matter. I’d take it a step further and say that en masse we are individually creating change whether for better or worse, whether we acknowledge we have that power or not.

            So when we incite others, we are making the problem bigger even in spite of ourselves, even as much as we claim to want the opposite (a return to sane leadership and at least superficially courteous discourse).

            And that’s beyond the obvious logistics: these people arguing for violent resistance never say where or when or how they’d like others to fight, but those of us who have actually been to protests that got heated know it’s not that simple. Agents provocateurs are everywhere, because they want it to get violent, the administration wants to be able to run headlines that paint resistors as disgruntled agitators and hoodlums and troublemakers, not your neighbor or your coworker or your boss. Anything to dehumanize and label “the other”, and violent protests deliver us all up to that end. As soon as we are labeled, we cease to matter.

            Compounding this problem, Americans have been firehosed with propaganda and mass manipulation from every direction for over a decade now, including mainstream media. The atmosphere here now is much what I have read of pre-WWII Germany: tight, cautious, foreboding, grim. And angry. Extremely angry. So when I see people who want to light a match to it, it’s almost impossible for me to see that as an act of good faith.

            In the meantime, for all the media focus on this unconscionable murder of a citizen just trying to get home (apparently she was shot on the same street she lived) the existing cracks in the administration’s attempts to consolidate power are widening. I’d point you to Heather Cox Richardson, who mentioned in her chat today what the media is downplaying: that the Dems finally pushed through a vote on the healthcare subsidies today, and they got it through on a discharge petition because over a dozen Republicans voted for it in spite of Trump’s threats and Mike Johnson’s best efforts to keep it from a vote. The House is also set to overturn two Trump vetoes (one of which is a Trump revenge veto against Lauren Boebert of Colorado for standing firm on the Epstein files). EDITED to add that they failed to overturn the vetoes, but did get a War Powers Act resolution up for a vote through the Senate, meaning that they will vote on whether further action in Venezuela has to be approved by Congress. This was aided by five Republicans who voted with the Dems.

            All of that is a big deal. This complicit Congress, without whom Trump would have nothing, are now working across the aisle on multiple issues in spite of him. Even Minnesota is standing firm and telling the feds that the ICE thug who shot Ms. Good can in fact be charged with murder by the state, and there’s really nothing the feds can do about it. The Supreme Court can only rule on what comes before it; meanwhile, lower courts are overturning his efforts right and left.

            In short, he is losing power faster than he can consolidate it, and when it comes right down to it, his goons shot a woman whose only crime was trying to get home from dropping her son off at school. When American beliefs have shifted away from a prevailing wind, it has often been because of a victim like Ms. Good that we can all relate to. Again, the firehose of lies is flooding the media with their alternative narrative, but those videos are circulating faster than they can be shut down – and even the videos only exist because sane individuals were out there blowing whistles to let their neighbors know that ICE was there to begin with. That’s where real change happens, and where true power lies: with the individual.

            So yeah. I can’t tell you how bad it is here right now: it is beyond anything I have ever experienced. But resistance is popping up everywhere, and outside of the roughly 20%-25% that are always going to support authoritarian rule in any society, there is no real support for him. That’s another reason why I’d tell people here to incite violence to knock it off: they could actually be part of the growing resistance if they let go of the rage and think about what’s next. Wisdom and rage rarely accomplish the same thing, and we’ve only just started to fight back. Anyone who wants to fight in the street will likely have their opportunity to do so, unfortunately. But right now it will only fuel the oppressor.

            Thank you for your courteous reply; I was kind of shocked to see it, honestly. I appreciate it, more than you know.

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            I tend to agree. I’m trying my level best to approach the entire situation with as much humanism and empathy as I can muster. That said, I’ve become a bit more bold in asking for honest follow-up from these folks: what’s the plan, what have you done to prepare, what practical things can the rest of us do, and how will you survive the violent uprising you endorse? I’ve watched others try this as well. So far, it’s just been radio silence every time. While not direct evidence, my experience so far is that these troll-like comments strongly resemble bad-faith arguments, as their authors disengage when I attempt to solicit details and/or de-escalate the conversation.

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      Canadian here: it is important to us that you resist your fascist regime. We need you to do that just as much you need to do that for yourselves. It is also extremely important to deeply understand that resistance is NOT a binary switch that flips between “nothing” and “armed resistance”. At this stage in the game, in the US, you guys need to be doing a whole lot more of non-armed and institutional resistance. You need extreme pettiness. Make the trumpofascists pay a price in annoyance every step of the fucking way.

      For example, call your senators and congresspeople, even the more radical left ones, and ask them why they are not calling for votes for every fucking little thing that depends on unanimity.. Then threaten to primary those that don’t. RESIST OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.

      Then, the question goes to the mayors the ones that bluster with “gtfo ICE”. Why are they not doing road reconstruction in front and round ICE facilities? Why are there no incessant pipe maintenance requests at the sewers and cables and water mains that feed those compounds? RATFUCK THEM.

      Then the question goes to the merchants. Why are there no “we don’t sell to ICE” signs on shops around their compounds? Why is it commercially viable to NOT have a policy like that? Why are they contracting work to them? Why is any private entity in the ICE supply chain not being constantly threatened with boycotts and divestment? MAKE IT TOXIC TO WORK WITH THEM.

      Do I need to keep going, or do people get the idea?

      Beyond that, realize that you have to start small, then build up: https://youtu.be/vvaquOcNEKI Armed resistance is the worst case scenario endgame. Not the start.

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        So what specific violence do you recommend? Against whom? Where? When? Based on which historical precedent (pick just one)?

        Because you’re both very light on specifics. “[T]his is the argument that caused people to permit the Nazis” is a statement made of smoke.

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          The specific violence is highly contextual. And it’s wise to be light on specifics, but for historical examples you can look up the history of German and Austrian resistance fighters in Germany during and prior to world war 2 if you like. Efforts both peaceful and violent had an impact and contributed to the allied victory.

          A good example would be finding specific individuals who have broken the law and killed people, but who have avoided any legal repercussion, and ensuring that there is a repercussion.

          It’s definitely not an action that should be taken wildly, or while on tilt. but we’re approaching the point of needing that kind of action.

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              don’t pretend your mind doesn’t work well enough to comprehend what I’m saying.

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                An alliance of a dozen countries completely crushed the Nazi war machine.

                Which isn’t relevant.

                You’re strongly implying shooting someone (anyone?) in the US federal government will stop the rapidly increasing fascism. It won’t. It will be a casus belli to double down on fascism.

                So go pound sand.

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                  The casus belli argument might be meaningful if they weren’t already bellicose, and actively pursuing violence. So go hide in a corner.

                  that said, I don’t advocate violence yet (until, perhaps, an actual dictatorship is established and election terms are violated). It’s still a situation that has potential to be resolved internally, with law, come the elections this year - if there’s meaningful action by the representation.

                  However, if someone loses their shit, I argue that they should do their homework and go for the most dire of lawbreakers first.

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        That’s how they’d love everyone to think. Violent response gives pretext to drive the jackboot in. If you try to go to pick a fight on a force with a monopoly on violence, you’ll get yourself killed and embolden them.

        Successful overthrows happen when elites break ranks, when organised alternatives exist, when military, police and bureaucracy take another option.

        Organise peaceful protest, appeal to those in power rather than threatening them, and make the alternative more attractive than the status quo.

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          I agree, to some significant extent. But I don’t agree with the suppression of violence, here. Rather, it should be channeled into the ranks of said organized alternatives.

          …but if there are no organized alternatives, and someone loses their shit, they should do a little research and aim at the most egregious lawnreakers first.

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    The behaviour of ice and the dhs fits the definition of terrorism: “the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims”. State terrorism is still terrorism.

    Nazi Germany prior to the Reichstag fire was kinda like the usa now: thugs on the street harassing civilians of chosen outgroups without consequences, but the government was still ostensibly obeying laws and not yet mass disappearing people. I think usa republicans aren’t ready yet to have their Reichstag fire moment, but it just seems like a matter of time. Their expansion of ice seems pretty much unopposed & their take over of government agencies + army/navy appears to be progressing steadily as well.

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      Our Reichstag fire was long ago, and it’s not about “Republicans”.

      The response to 9-11 is what some consider to be the “turning point”, the Patriot Act and what it created was a point of no return. (it made ICE, a surveillance state, Guantanamo concentration camp, and so much more). There is no better environment for fascism, it approves and supports fascism by design.

      If you somehow erased every Republican tomorrow, that fascist surveillance police state would remain, waiting to be used in the only way it can be used.

      Democrats won’t save you

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      The question is, is the American public in the right mood to flip over to fascism when scared by the riechstag fire or flip against it?

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    They’re going to schools because it’s a safe assumption no one has a gun.

    They want easy victims, and too many people still don’t understand what the phrase “stay dangerous” ever meant.

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      Yep, I also have a feeling they are singling out weak targets to appear strong, nationally and internationally: blackmail Ukraine, plan luxury resorts in Gaza, kill unarmed people unprovoked, kidnap the head of one of the weakest states on earth, threaten a starving country (Cuba), defund universities and humanitarian organizations.

      They can be seen kneeling when Putin offers a shoe to polish and when they have to play the victim of hostile trade.

      Sorry for going on a tangent. The frustration is real.

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      How long before he takes his pick from among the most delectable children and has them snatched for him? Maybe it’s already happening?

      Why not? Nothing would happen. It’s the right of kings!

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    You don’t need any context to understand this is very simple. When you are being surrounded by rouge, angry, armed men with assault weapons, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.

    Mrs. Good tried to run away, but they wouldn’t let her and killed her in cold blood in front of her community to make a point. That ICE agent Jonathan Ross MUST be charged for this murder, otherwise they will continue to murder innocent people more and more.

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      If you run they will murder you dude. I think this is bad advice to give honestly… You even mention the killing of someone who tried to run.

      You’re better off sorting it out with your lawyer later and trying to sue. Finances is all the government cares about so if you start chipping away at that maybe then shit will change.

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        I’m not sure this is a great solution either. People are getting picked up by ICE and disappeared. Hard to fight it with a lawyer when you’re isolated in a hole somewhere in Africa or South America.

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          Indeed, and non-citizens aren’t entitled to due process, apparently. And I can’t imagine how many citizens must’ve been deported due to being denied the opportunity to show that they are citizens. Lawyers have been finding it super difficult to stay in contact with the clients even when they’re being held in detention in the US. It’s fucking terrifying

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    I don’t know where else to ask this question…or even if I’m formulating this question properly in my rage.

    Violence in the streets seems to be inevitable to me at this point with the recent revelation that Minnesota will not be allowed to perform a state-level investigation in to Renee Nicole Good’s death. The sheer audacity of the injustice, the inhumanity before, during and after this event, the clear and shameless lying. Now, they are attacking your children. If Americans take this lying down then there truly is no Rubicon, so at this point I’m practically hoping for violence, because how many more dead would the alternative bring? That feels wrong to me, but if no one stands up for these victims, then obviously their number will rise exponentially. But that’s not my question.

    My question is, when this thing explodes and the violence breaks out. When Trump and his goons do the only thing their limited minds can think of and try to “crack down”. When it all goes to fucking shit… then what? Line up on sides like a dodgeball team and States start rebelling like it’s 150 years ago? Isolated city-states locked out from Federal support and interference? Trump declares himself President for Life?

    It’s not weird that those resisting fascism have no solid plan, this is being thrust upon them. It might have been predictable but I can’t blame people for not really believing it until folks started dying. But it seems weird that the instigators of this fucking circus don’t even seem to be able to tell me what their fucking goal is. Do they honestly think they can create a brutal Christofascist ethno-state out of modern America? That no one will stop them, just because no one has killed them yet? And more insanely, if they do succeed, do they think they’ll all live through that attempt?

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      You are missing the key piece of information here:

      The instigators of this are TRYING to harm the United States. They do not have a vision of a better country at the end of this. They are enemies of the nation and a chaotic mess is exactly what they want to see happen. Its not SUPPOSED to work. A dysfunctional country IS the goal.

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      There will not be battle lines.

      Take a look back at the “Troubles” in Northern Ireland to get more of a sense of what a modern civil war would look like. You can also look at the insurgencies in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, though obviously those countries are much different from the US than the UK is.

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        Myanmar comes to mind as a worst-case scenario, too. They’ve been fighting since the pandemic and it’s basically in every direction, everywhere.

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      When it all goes to fucking shit… then what? Line up on sides like a dodgeball team and States start rebelling like it’s 150 years ago? Isolated city-states locked out from Federal support and interference? Trump declares himself President for Life?

      It likely depends on what the actual circumstances of the violence is and the various responses from other government agencies.

      In other fascist government takeovers the key differentiator is the role/reaction of the military. Does the military support the fascist leader or does it oppose them? In 1922 Mussolini had full control and loyalty from the military while the government did not. Alternatively, while not in 2013 President of Egypt Mohamed Morsi, which had was facing protests by the populous for his actions was deposed by the military in what their opponents label a coup. In the 1930s in the USA, there was a fascist group called German American Bund. These were the American Nazi party you may have heard of of which famous pilot Charles Linbergh was a member of. There were supposed plans to execute a fascist takeover of the USA deposing FDR. The military stepped up protection of FDR, so we can infer that FDR had the support the military. German American Bund was investigated, many arrested, and it was dissolved.

      So in your theoretical, which way does the US military go?

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      Preventive maintenance is always better than repairs…

      If there’s a group of 100 protestors and 10 of them have rifles and plate carriers, all of a sudden de-escalation can become a common goal.

      If the same side is always the only one with guns, and they face no legal consequences from escalating to violence…

      They’re gonna keep doing it.

      It sounds counter-intuitive, but there’s a reason ICE isn’t going after actual cartels and drug smugglers. They’re picking the easiest targets, so now is the time for everyone to stop being an easy target while we’re still legally allowed to buy this shit. Being visible armed is the only way to make cops want to de-escalate. If not, they’re trained to “press the advantage” and keep you panicked, which doesn’t work at all, but makes them feel tough.

      Eventually Trump’s gonna stop letting people buy guns, if you think an armed populace will ever be necessary, now’s the time to get a kit together.

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        Just one person being armed won’t deter them. There’s a reason the 2A specifies “well organized militia” It is your right to gather together with other armed citizens and use violence to defend your communities.

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          I’ve never seen a video of a cop shooting a protester while another protester is in the area with a rifle…

          Can you show me a single example of me being wrong?

          Because it’s logically impossible for anyone to prove the opposite, I’d have to show you ever video of American law enforcement shooting someone…

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            How about shooting an innocent bystander and the armed protester while he was carrying a rifle.

            They would have thought twice about shooting Arturo if he had a dozen armed friends nearby, I’d wager.

            example of you being wrong

            Arturo Gamboa, the man shot in June while openly carrying a rifle at Salt Lake City’s No Kings protest… Looking to confront Gamboa for his AR-15-style firearm, a safety volunteer fired three shots. Two struck him, and another killed an innocent bystander… When asked about his actions that day, Gamboa said he was “peacefully protesting, utilizing my First and Second Amendment rights under the Constitution.”…

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              How about shooting an innocent bystander and the armed protester while he was carrying a rifle

              So…

              That means you couldnt find an example of what I was actually g about?

              I’ve never seen a video of a cop shooting a protester while another protester is in the area with a rifle…

              Are you being sarcastic or can you really not tell the difference between those two sentences?

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      Look up “Bleeding Kansas” and “bushwhacking”.

      That, except with pipe bombs, rented trucks, and ubiquitous modern firearms. It could get very ugly. I don’t know what kind of appetite either side has for that long term.

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      This is what it looks like when fascism is in the midst of overthrowing a country. And old-school democracy has very few defences against these tactics.

      Passivism does allow for self defence and, in many cases, the defence of others.

      They’re trying to provoke us out in the open. They’ve been trying to normalise violence against us (and have become alarmingly effective).

      A few people have commented places where this has happened before; where government has been captured by the far right. Historians have identified key moments where a different action or approach had a high chance of changing the outcome. If we look at current events temporaly through the lens of those key moments, we can be far, far better informed.

      I know some people have been doing that.

      eta: We’re running Democracy2.0, and many more versions have been developed in the past 200 years. We’re driving a constitution designed to be transported by carriage. It’s incompatible with our recent technology.

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      Congress and the senate could stipnthis tomorrow. A serious, fucused pressure campaign on republicans would flip this script. Right now trump takes all the heat, and he doesnt cate becuase hes a moron and just doesnt care.

      the house and the senate get to just ignore all of this. no one ever mentions them, like they have a free pass or something.

      We should be following these people, their assistants, and their spouses 24/7 365 until they impeach this shitstain.

      We can not allow them off the hook beacuse “republicans wont impeach”, thats bullshit. they are just humans, and they will break like anyone else.

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    America is definitively passed their point of no return. I personally like many think that was a long time ago but there are still people out there who cannot internalize it. They’re in denial.

    The world is trying to tell you guys this. Yes, you will have to put your body on the line. You will miss work. You will miss your bills. You’ve already lost so much. You will lose more. It’s a foregone conclusion. The question is what can you salvage at the point.

    No, telling the rest of us to put our own bodies on the line will not change your situation. Ukrainians have no choice but to fight their oppressor. Gazans have no choice but to fight for their lives. America is no exception. You’ve slid into fascism. You have to fight for your freedom now.

    You never were the exception. This mentality has been your undoing. The system isn’t fixing itself because of some higher innate quality of being American. You have proven this yourselves. You tried voting. It didn’t work. You tried protesting. It didn’t work. You tried your systems of checks and balances. They’ve all been torn the shreds.

    You will fight like the rest of the world fights for their freedom. The idea of American peace, liberty, and justice for all was a fun fantasy while it lasted. Your own weapons of oppression are pointed at you. It’s time to wake up to reality now. This is the America that the rest of the world knows.

    Maybe now Americans will understand those around world didn’t hate you because you were better. They hate you because of the very oppression you now face yourselves.

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    Hi, Mod here:

    The community rules don’t allow posting complete article text. Please edit this post to one or two key paragraphs to avoid removal.

    These rules help keep our community safe, legal, and usable for everyone.

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    That protestor was fortunate that he wasn’t shot in the face.

    On a side note, if you’re participating in a protest, please wear reasonable shoes or even steel-toed boots, not SANDALS. This request is for your own safety, I’m not the fashion police.

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    Who were they going to get? A kid? Or better yet, a teacher? A coach, a school janitor or bus driver?

    Perhaps the public should re-examine the premise of why they hate “criminal” immigrants so much…

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    Trump recently said he wants the My Pillow guy as governor of Minnesota. Do you think maybe that he’s trying to install him by inciting violence or something? He’s definitely trying to get people to choose violence.

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      I hadn’t heard about that, but upon reading your comment my immediate thought is that Trump is going to manufacture a pretext to arrest (i.e. kidnap) Governor Walz.

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        Martial law, he’s itching. I doubt he’d arrest him for something, just take over the position because he let the place go.